(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Go Congres 2012 MAIN round 2 board 1]PW[Cristian Pop]PB[Ilia Shikshin]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2012-07-23]PC[Bonn, Germany]US[HW9x9]C[lupis [3d\]: 'gmorning Harry
hvk [-\]: hi
A1R [2k\]: cristian pop vs ilza shikshin
A1R [2k\]: ilya*
hutzliput: 2 boards  broadcsted  2day?
TurtleDove [4k\]: good morning folks
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 2 broadcasts thanks to the 5 donators yesterday
MaxMakinen [1k\]: so, will it be 3 tommorow with more donators? xD
lupis [3d\]: I guess we'll see Antti in the background in the stream
MaxMakinen [1k\]: Who's Antti playing against?
lupis [3d\]: there is a korean flag no the table..
lupis [3d\]: *on
MaxMakinen [1k\]: hmh, poor him
ivank [3k\]: Ilya has a very good score against Pop, I've heard
zongtoulan [4d\]: hoho big match up so early in the tournie
ivank [3k\]: yes
MaxMakinen [1k\]: According to europeangodatabase.com Ilja has a 6-3 score against Christian Pop before this game
A1R [2k\]: i guess antti is playing Ryu Seung-Hee 7 dan
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: why are first board players always late?
ivank [3k\]: 6-3 is one stone difference?
MaxMakinen [1k\]: Su Yang isn't playing in the tournament? You can see him in the stream standing next to Antti
zongtoulan [4d\]: 2nd too by the looks of it :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of these games on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 and 2
TurtleDove [4k\]: Antii vs Ms Ryu is board 3 ?
MaxMakinen [1k\]: They're already playing fast by the looks of it?
MaxMakinen [1k\]: really fast? o_o
MaxMakinen [1k\]: any chance of getting the camera zoomed there since board1 hasnt started yet?
MaxMakinen [1k\]: ah starting now
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;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[dd]
;B[qk]C[gogonuts [5d\]: in the black corner, weighing in at 170 pounds ...
Striker [-\]: No Su Yang is not playing
gogonuts [5d\]: the pros have been playing the good old chinese opening a lot too, lately
Tabemasu [7d?\]: chinese
Tabemasu [7d?\]: wonderful
Striker [-\]: he is just supporting his finnish friends
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sound and picture ok?
TurtleDove [4k\]: fine
gogonuts [5d\]: w f3 used to be the new counter, but now its mostly back to o17
gogonuts [5d\]: history repeating itself
ShenWei [2k\]: mahlzeit
gogonuts [5d\]: maltied
Stuttgart [4k\]: Good morning Harry! :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: good morning all!!!!
Stuttgart [4k\]: :)
isbhal [4d\]: hello 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of these games on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 and 2
gogonuts [5d\]: btw, its good that your using the eurogo user, not some funky special egc user
BWayne [9k\]: where is white, he doesn.t move
TurtleDove [4k\]: players see this so often it's surprising they haven't already decided what they will play
juicer [-\]: top match
Stuttgart [4k\]: I wish someone would also transcribe Antti's game... but I'm still happy that we get Ilya :)
gogonuts [5d\]: w is staring into the distance :-)
Laman [1k\]: F3
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: today we also have board 2 thanks to 5 donators yesterday!!!!
Amanda [7k\]: O16
HotToTrot [1d\]: who is w on KGS
BWayne [9k\]: r15
Stuttgart [4k\]: Yay! Thank you donators! Thank you EuroGoTV! :)
hutzliput: w not sure if he answers ...
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if you want to see board 2 tomorrow 5 people must make a donation to EuroGoTV (button below the EuroGoTV menu)
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;W[dj]C[hutzliput: gogonuts, why are you not @ EGC?
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;B[fq]C[gogonuts [5d\]: i have stuff, to do - except im not doing it right now :-/
elfking [3k\]: this is an interesting game since i always have trouble with chinese ... i would love to see how white handles it
gdghgjd [3d\]: probably to make nice comments today
A1R [2k\]: sanrensei vs chinese....
juicer [-\]: moyo vs moyo will be good teaching game
oonicks [?\]: nah hat ihr sich nun wirklich die koreaner geloscht?
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;W[jp]C[Stuttgart [4k\]: Harry, how big has the donation have to be in order to count?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 1 cent
Stuttgart [4k\]: Are you serious?
gogonuts [5d\]: you do it for 5 cents?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i just want to see 5 people take the trouble
gogonuts [5d\]: ah
Stuttgart [4k\]: For real?
Stuttgart [4k\]: You take paypal? ;)
GotIt [2k\]: i hope people aren't cheap enough to actually give 1 cent
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, click the donation button at the bottom of the menu
gogonuts [5d\]: w here could be zen :-)
TurtleDove [4k\]: k4 close enough to count as a pincer ?
Stuttgart [4k\]: Actually Zen is sitting on the table behind ;)
gdghgjd [3d\]: w got special training from zen
Tabemasu [7d?\]: is that antti in the background?
Cunning [4k\]: it is pincer
Koffein [-\]: let's ddos harry via paypal! everyone donate 1 cent! :-)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you can donate what you want or find our service worth
Amanda [7k\]: A floating pincer
Stuttgart [4k\]: Tabemasu, it has to be... how many people would sit in sazen in the EGC? ;)
MaxMakinen [1k\]: Surprising that the germans haven't gotten more scribes :) would have expected them to beat at least the french on that ;)
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;B[mp]C[Cunning [4k\]: 4 point jump no more pincer 'cause then the opponent can make a safe 2 point extension
Tabemasu [7d?\]: haha
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: for me the French EGC was super great
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 4 boards and super internet
ShenWei [2k\]: 1. donate sollte da sein :-)
gogonuts [5d\]: now e3+d6?
Stuttgart [4k\]: So what happens if 10 people donate? We get 3 transcribed boards?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: THX Niels!!!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 4 to go
Freddo [7d\]: seems likely gogonuts
holynec [-\]: HIHIHIHI
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, if 10 people donate 3 boards
holynec [-\]: how much is a board
holynec [-\]: :k
kryft [1d?\]: EuroGoTV1, I just donated 10 euros. :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 1 board 5 donations
holynec [-\]: how much is a donation ^^
oonicks [?\]: 5ct
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: THX Kristian!!!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 3 to go
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;W[fo]C[gogonuts [5d\]: nope
gogonuts [5d\]: stays fancy :-9
Freddo [7d\]: popic style i guess
Stuttgart [4k\]: I donated 2 Euros, I'm poor :)
Badukgirl [?\]: harry is a paring and resultslink onine?
Tabemasu [7d?\]: c3?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: THX Michael !!!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 2 to go
Freddo [7d\]: H4 also looks interesting
Stuttgart [4k\]: You're welcome :)
sek33 [-\]: hey Fredda, still in korea?
Tabemasu [7d?\]: what after h5?
Striker [-\]: results of the first round are here: http://www.egc2012.eu/congress/main-tournaments/open-european-championship/results-main-tournament-round-1
Stuttgart [4k\]: Harry, the 5 donations / board is an awesome idea in my opinion!
Freddo [7d\]: hey sek, yes
hutzliput: score between these two is: pop 3:6 shikshin
Striker [-\]: pairing not online yet
MaxMakinen [1k\]: studying Go Freddo, or?
Badukgirl [?\]: thxs strinker ;-*
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;B[cq]C[Freddo [7d\]: no not studying just holiday now:)
hutzliput: and pop has meanwhile only 6d rating...
MaxMakinen [1k\]: ok :)
gogonuts [5d\]: c3 seems fine for b now, even though n4 isnt fully effective anymore
Freddo [7d\]: after  h5 then j5 j4 e5 possibly tabemasu
Striker [-\]: just check the egc homepage regulary to stay up to date ;)
Tabemasu [7d?\]: i see
gogonuts [5d\]: w keeps the problem that f5 and k4 are poorly connected
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: THX Max and Kjetil!!!!!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: tomorrow again 2 boards!
Stuttgart [4k\]: Yay! 2nd board!!!
ShenWei [2k\]: :-)
MaxMakinen [1k\]: so, will you do 3 boards for 5 more donations? :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
MaxMakinen [1k\]: cmon people! ;)
Sur [3k?\]: Why is a problem with transcribing more boards, if it's not the money?
holynec [-\]: harry can you put the eurotv link in your profile? :[
Stuttgart [4k\]: Sur, you need a dedicated person to do that
holynec [-\]: rather, at the top of your profile lol
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: there is holynec
Backflash [6k\]: hm, strange, i've been waiting Ilya to play h4 like stuff, c3 looks calm
gogonuts [5d\]: w really must block at c4 here
holynec [-\]: I didn't know I had to scroll down :\\
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of these games on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 and 2
Stuttgart [4k\]: did I miss the holynec introduction? :(
gogonuts [5d\]: i think pops strategy was to annoy shikshin, and that failed :-)
Gorim [3k\]: maybe he think that san rei sei is better at influence than chinese, so he switches to territory
Tabemasu [7d?\]: haha
akkrasia [8k\]: I am holynec.
Tabemasu [7d?\]: what does white even do now
akkrasia [8k\]: King of kgs.
elmex [6k\]: the opponents are barely sitting at the board, interesting :)
Stuttgart [4k\]: no, you are akkrasia :)
Freddo [7d\]: I think have to D3
Tabemasu [7d?\]: he has to get sente, but...
idareyou [6k\]: why do time not count ? 
Freddo [7d\]: C4 just looks like too bad shape
gogonuts [5d\]: but with k4 in place d3 ends in gote
akkrasia [8k\]: (I just didn't want you to miss the intro, Stuttgart.)
oonicks [?\]: perhaps moves like o17 are possible , c4 is the proper move here , not d3
medical [3k\]: idareyou, it's quite hard to sync real-world clock presses to internet
Tabemasu [7d?\]: yeah d3 seems best
ivank [3k\]: lol akkrasia
Freddo [7d\]: not necessarily gogo
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;W[cp]C[gogonuts [5d\]: ok, but b cutting at e3 would make me cry as w :-)
indian: nice call gogo
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;W[gq]C[Stuttgart [4k\]: akkrasia, thank you for the kindness :)
holynec [-\]:  I just donated 15 euros.
holynec [-\]: enjoy :\]
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: great 4 to go for 3 boards
Stuttgart [4k\]: wow, holynec is affluent O.o
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;W[fp]
;B[eq]
;W[hq]C[Tabemasu [7d?\]: how can white play like this
holynec [-\]: I didnt enjoy for more boards. I donated because I've watched the stream for years and feel obligated to.
holynec [-\]: Because I make some money now. :\]
holynec [-\]: I appreciate the videos.
Freddo [7d\]: yeah the result is quite horrible for white
mucephei [3d\]: already like black's board
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you make me blush holynec
holynec [-\]: *pay  :p
Gorim [3k\]: white feels Takemiya:P
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;W[eo]
;B[do]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: is this good for b?
gogonuts [5d\]: oh
indian: it is
gogonuts [5d\]: looks a little greedy :-)
bombur14 [2d\]: b goes straight into business :)
Tabemasu [7d?\]: i probably would have played on top
gdghgjd [3d\]: aggressive...
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;W[bp]
;B[co]
;W[bn]C[gogonuts [5d\]: playing first at the top would have been good ...
nanotech [2k\]: illia style press press
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;B[bo]
;W[dn]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: ha
Stuttgart [4k\]: c4 can run towards  D10 and make D5 a baseless group, no?
indian: shikshin is best fighter in europe
gogonuts [5d\]: yeah, hes the persistent type :_)
gdghgjd [3d\]: pop seems to know this one
Laman [1k\]: isn't agfression Ilya's second name?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: battle for sente
Laman [1k\]: *aggression
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;W[cn]
;B[ap]C[dxxd [2k\]: lol at jeff's expression
gogonuts [5d\]: this was good for w
kcharris12 [1d\]: b takes 3 stones!
gogonuts [5d\]: game is even again :-)
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;W[jd]C[profan [-\]: w sente and influence, this is cosmic!
indian: no
Freddo [7d\]: I think Black shouldn't had captured at A4
ivank [3k\]: d10 is misplased now
Freddo [7d\]: why not take sente and play K16?
Tabemasu [7d?\]: yeah
Tabemasu [7d?\]: i agree
Freddo [7d\]: already satisfied
Freddo [7d\]: white wont take anyway.. too slow
gogonuts [5d\]: why not play k16 right away?
Stuttgart [4k\]: white moyo looks impressive
HandA [1k\]: breakfast not attending this year?
Bira [1d\]: yeah it's not that w is gonna take 3 stones? :)
gogonuts [5d\]: i cant see the merrit in d4
Stuttgart [4k\]: HandA, he played the Team Championship yesterday so he is there
profan [-\]: w strategy looks better, no need to reduce or invade black structure, sounds good
kcharris12 [1d\]: but there was a cut :D
Tabemasu [7d?\]: now w seems not bad
gogonuts [5d\]: right
Freddo [7d\]: at least the position is playable
dxxd [2k\]: ilya looks like he knows he screwed up
HandA [1k\]: he can't be in 2 tournaments?
idareyou [6k\]: w is better than b
idareyou [6k\]: :)
hhfjxhfbDE [4d\]: why did B play A4 ?
hhfjxhfbDE [4d\]: was it really urgent or necessary or that big ?
Freddo [7d\]: about 20 points but
Freddo [7d\]: gote
indian: he wants destroy center influence?
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;B[cf]C[gogonuts [5d\]: b was surely leading - but now it looks like a successful w fuseki ...
Freddo [7d\]: but ilya likes territority so
hhfjxhfbDE [4d\]: I mean, if he played elsewhere white wouldn't have played 
oonicks [?\]: it's big and the situation was already gote for b
hhfjxhfbDE [4d\]: it
idareyou [6k\]: jump innnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn :D 
akkrasia [8k\]: Is scoring territory based/ 6.5 komi for Euros?
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;W[ch]C[Freddo [7d\]: i guess it fits his style
Tabemasu [7d?\]: lol
gogonuts [5d\]: hm
Freddo [7d\]: this move was played fast..
profan [-\]: another corner for black? ^^
Pinguschaf [?\]: looks kinda strange
gogonuts [5d\]: c12 seems lukewarm to me
kcharris12 [1d\]: isn't kicking better?
drivenrain [-\]: takemiya style pincer
profan [-\]: w wants another sente here ^^
akkrasia [8k\]: Anyone know komi?
oonicks [?\]: ichallenge to play a taisha?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of these games on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 and 2
gogonuts [5d\]: i understand that w respects bs fighting strength, but c12 is just too nice, imo
profan [-\]: Options/Rules 
TurtleDove [4k\]: 6.5 komi
Freddo [7d\]: i dont think popic is afraid of ilya
gogonuts [5d\]: :-)
akkrasia [8k\]: ty profan and Turtledove
profan [-\]: W: are you brave enough for c17 ? ^^
hhfjxhfbDE [4d\]: c17 seems ok to me
hhfjxhfbDE [4d\]: for black
hhfjxhfbDE [4d\]: is it ?
Freddo [7d\]: i think if black enters the corner it will be rly difficult for w
Freddo [7d\]: to get enough pts
oonicks [?\]: yi were b , i wud play a freakish taisha h16 perhaps
RobertT [-\]: corner is fine
idareyou [6k\]: must be C17
RobertT [-\]: corners are big, just take all the corners and let white worry about where to get points.
idareyou [6k\]: but W will very strong at center :|
holynec [-\]: I am holynec.
akkrasia [8k\]: But one territiory is subject to lots of reduction.
isbhal [4d\]: c17 
profan [-\]: c17? c16 ! and big wall! (sente)
holynec [-\]: c17
holynec [-\]: then k10
TurtleDove [4k\]: f17 also possible
idareyou [6k\]: maybe b will play E14 
gdghgjd [3d\]: if black plays c17, white cannot play d17 i think
holynec [-\]: 3d, you should know, not think!
Stuttgart [4k\]: thank you holynec, I wasn't sure if it was really you
profan [-\]: c17 c16 then is a wall in sent until h16 
Stuttgart [4k\]: :)
profan [-\]: * sente
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;B[bh]C[idareyou [6k\]: c17 - c16 - d17 - d13
profan [-\]: f17 ? c17 ! ^^
holynec [-\]: you know sometimes, I wonder the same for myself
elmex [6k\]: i15
isbhal [4d\]: i don't like
Tabemasu [7d?\]: b wants to jump at e14 i guess
isbhal [4d\]: too muck fighting spirit
isbhal [4d\]: much
profan [-\]: c15 ?
oonicks [?\]: the idea can be about 1 or 2 pts
momiji [4d\]: its a fujisawa shuko move
profan [-\]: if black lives in gote in seccond line
profan [-\]: that would be sad
tuquedenne [4d\]: C11 maybe
holynec [-\]: wow what is everyone's fujisawa number
HandA [1k\]: both afk
isbhal [4d\]: fujisawa shuko ? who is this ? 
elmex [6k\]: they got too much time :)
akkrasia [8k\]: holynec: Only this: or at least, if more, // You must know, not think it, and learn, not speak: // There is truth to be found on the unknown shore, // And many will find where few will seek.
indian: black wants to cheat white
to5 [4k\]: i dont get this game - first white chooses a joseki in the lower left corner, that does not fot the k4 stone, THEn black captures three stones in gote, which he does not need to live???
zongtoulan [4d\]: attach to strong stones
zongtoulan [4d\]: he is just followng proverbs
gogonuts [5d\]: holy moly
Laman [1k\]: to5: correct summary
to5 [4k\]: but why is this stong go?
profan [-\]: a question of direction, if w wants to approach q16 , what's better, o17 or r14 ?
Syu [1k\]: hiya kibbitzers
HandA [1k\]: is that wine?
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;W[ci]
;B[ef]
;W[fd]
;B[bd]
;W[cc]
;B[bc]C[elmex [6k\]: lol
idareyou [6k\]: quickly :D
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;W[nc]C[holynec [-\]: akkrasia, you dsuan wannabe
elmex [6k\]: both read it out, and came back to play it out
gogonuts [5d\]: some of it probably is that these 2 know each other well, and like to deny the other guy a development he feels good with
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;B[pf]C[IstTengen [3k?\]: profan: o17 :D
isbhal [4d\]: Illia happy 
profan [-\]: ok ^ì i got the answer ^^
oonicks [?\]: the move payed
profan [-\]: q5 !
idareyou [6k\]: now the game is tie :D 
oonicks [?\]: b12
Tabemasu [7d?\]: i have no idea how w is going to win
holynec [-\]: *dsaun
Freddo [7d\]: well white is playing romanian style:)
Backflash [6k\]: wow, left for 15 minutes ....
kcharris12 [1d\]: good yose :)
Freddo [7d\]: popic and cornel always have some strange kind of influence
Freddo [7d\]: and it ends up huge
Freddo [7d\]: lets see popic magic:)
Tabemasu [7d?\]: i see
isbhal [4d\]: :D
gogonuts [5d\]: what is ws continuation in the top left?
Backflash [6k\]: ilya has his own magic
IstTengen [3k?\]: Why are you not there Fredda?
Freddo [7d\]: im in korea
isbhal [4d\]: because she is in love
Freddo [7d\]: too expensive :(
IstTengen [3k?\]: ah.
isbhal [4d\]: he*
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;W[fg]
;B[ff]
;W[gf]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: mm
hutzliput: but popic rób his lowest egf rating for many years....
hutzliput: *on
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of these games on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 and 2
Backflash [6k\]: wow, that looks like vodka bottle
Sonatine [4k\]: m17 POSSIBLE,
kcharris12 [1d\]: what can b do now?
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;B[ge]C[Sonatine [4k\]: ?
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;W[fe]
;B[he]C[Idoc [2d\]: big fight
kcharris12 [1d\]: b18 no?
isbhal [4d\]: superpanda 8p O_O
Egg [8k\]: h17 ?
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;W[eg]C[holynec [-\]: !!! 8p panda power
oo8: .
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;B[de]C[Bira [1d\]: d13 ?
idareyou [6k\]: ww D13 
billywoods [7k\]: oh wow
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;W[cd]C[Sisley [5k\]: b is pretty much leading right now ?
Egg [8k\]: ah, good shape
kcharris12 [1d\]: c18
Backflash [6k\]: Sisley, no?
GoRoGoRo [8k?\]: e17 looks pretty - but impossible
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;B[be]C[idareyou [6k\]: w b18 
IstTengen [3k?\]: h17 ?
Sisley [5k\]: b18 gote
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;W[bb]
;B[bi]
;W[bj]
;B[cg]C[Egg [8k\]: looks like sente to me
akkrasia [8k\]: Ilya didn't think it gote.
idareyou [6k\]: d13
idareyou [6k\]: w d13
orro [1k\]: yesterday results listed anywere?
Backflash [6k\]: on egc site , yes
elmex [6k\]: http://www.egc2012.eu/congress/main-tournaments/open-european-championship/results-main-tournament-round-1
MaxMakinen [1k\]: yes, just go to www.egc2012.eu
orro [1k\]: thx
tuquedenne [4d\]: and pairing of round 2 ?
Syu [1k\]: e15 would make perfect double empty triangle
IstTengen [3k?\]: smae page.
Striker [-\]: not online yet
kcharris12 [1d\]: a11 a13 a17 a16 a14 b14 a10 
lupis [3d\]: NO PAIRINGS AS OF YET
gogonuts [5d\]: nice life here b
tuquedenne [4d\]: no need to shout it but thanks :)
lupis [3d\]: opps, sorry for the caps
to5 [4k\]: Ilia cant sit quietly
Sisley [5k\]: g15 stones look annoying
Michi86 [5k?\]: ufo+1 <3
Freddo [7d\]: indeed sisley
gogonuts [5d\]: h15 is still doing well, so b is better now, imo
Freddo [7d\]: agreed
Sisley [5k\]: freddo u dont play the tournament ?
Freddo [7d\]: yes 
klausP [5d?\]: he is in korea
Sisley [5k\]: nice
A1R [2k\]: aside from egc...fredda...did you improve so far? i mean you traveled as 6dan there and you must be one of the strongest if you'r back...what do you think?
Freddo [7d\]: i didnt improve so much
klausP [5d?\]: those players realy know how to create positions i would not want to play on eather side
Sisley [5k\]: lol
gogonuts [5d\]: nice klaus
gogonuts [5d\]: but i would take b here
Backflash [6k\]: really? it looks much harder for b
Egg [8k\]: looks rather even to me
klausP [5d?\]: i would take black too, but i still hate the position after w k14
A1R [2k\]: hehe...more 소개팅 ;)
zum [-\]: 8k even does not sound encouraging
WWSD [1d\]: they both have to figure out how to manage whites position
GocchiSama [1k\]: if black settle his group then white is in trouble on the upper left side corner
Tabemasu [7d?\]: h15 stones are such a pain
oonicks [?\]: the real problem with mopves like g9 is noone plays them
Egg [8k\]: well, thats why i am 8k
klausP [5d?\]: how do you move h15 after k14?
elmex [6k\]: white still needs to work on blacks right side, while black already chewed off some of whites original area around c3 and c14.
zum [-\]: Tabe: pain for whom?
Tabemasu [7d?\]: pain for white
Freddo [7d\]: white
Freddo [7d\]: how about just g13 klausp?
Freddo [7d\]: looks terrible for white
TurtleDove [4k\]: W j14 doesn't seem to work
zongtoulan [4d\]: if it looks terrible for everyone i guess ilya will win
klausP [5d?\]: right
zongtoulan [4d\]: he likes mess
Freddo [7d\]: looks like white really does not have a move here
Egg [8k\]: of course ho does
oonicks [?\]: yes its a bit small but they r not yet 10p, how about q5
Egg [8k\]: he is not gonna pass here
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;W[dg]C[Tabemasu [7d?\]: maybe just g13 is best
gogonuts [5d\]: just h17 and hope for a chance in the future?
gogonuts [5d\]: ah
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;B[df]C[gogonuts [5d\]: good move
Freddo [7d\]: this was expected
Sisley [5k\]: isnt this a bit dangerous for w ?
gogonuts [5d\]: hard for b to play e15
gogonuts [5d\]: so this exchange is good
akkrasia [8k\]: Let's // get // dangerous.
oonicks [?\]: g13 looks a bit over date
Sisley [5k\]: what about j14 ?
Tabemasu [7d?\]: g13 is not something i want to play
akkrasia [8k\]: k13 pleases me, in an aesthetic way.
elmex [6k\]: what is this obsession with g13, is it for black to bend around up to j13?
MicMac [2d\]: j13?
kcharris12 [1d\]: m5
ereaew: G13
Sisley [5k\]: tenuki :)
murrmurr [5d\]: white should resign
gogonuts [5d\]: the cut at g13 makes it impossible to close b in
oonicks [?\]: h17 will perhaps be sente
MicMac [2d\]: or k14
Sisley [5k\]: i would go to strenghten top first
shikasta [1k\]: h/g17 too much bad aji down there
Egg [8k\]: how about tenuki ?
a2g [5k\]: g14 is 2 points gote so why to care?
Tabemasu [7d?\]: i don't know what to do as white, everything is bad
oonicks [?\]: s5
locker [1d\]: white p9 ?
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;W[ai]C[HandA [1k\]: a13
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;B[ag]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: a17
Sisley [5k\]: handa u know ur tesujis :)
]
;W[ac]C[HandA [1k\]: anyone can see that
Sisley [5k\]: yep
MicMac [2d\]: i like j14
Egg [8k\]: thats a nice living group
murrmurr [5d\]: aaanyone can seee...
Tabemasu [7d?\]: haha
murrmurr [5d\]: nothing really matters.. to meee
sabakusoso [-\]: lol
Sisley [5k\]: i dont get what w wants here
Tabemasu [7d?\]: "maybe black will mess up the life and death"
gogonuts [5d\]: a16 would certainly be beneath ilya :-)
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;B[bf]C[akkrasia [8k\]: "whichever way the wind blows"
sabakusoso [-\]: all the people doesn't have your reading murrmurr
oonicks [?\]: time
Tabemasu [7d?\]: "damn"
gdghgjd [3d\]: w should wait for black's mistake and defend first
gogonuts [5d\]: lol
Syu [1k\]: lol tabe
murrmurr [5d\]: akkrasia, yeah, my mistake
pancake [4d\]: to me w seems behind already
ereaew: white ahead to me
gogonuts [5d\]: w is flat as a pancake
ereaew: G13 and if count white about 50 points
elmex [6k\]: white even to me (just for the sake of having all options pronounced in kibitz :)
TurtleDove [4k\]: heh, W just wanted one corner to call his own :)
Sisley [5k\]: w dont have that much safe terr
akkrasia [8k\]: When I look w/ my left eye, w is ahead 50. When I cover that one and look with my right, b has it by twenty.
gdghgjd [3d\]: b even to me
oonicks [?\]: w +5.5 still (k-1)
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;W[ne]C[akkrasia [8k\]: When I go back and forth too quickly, I get dizzy.
Backflash [6k\]: oh
]
;B[hc]
;W[fb]C[sabakusoso [-\]: oh god
Sisley [5k\]: that was coming
gogonuts [5d\]: h17: "show me"
Egg [8k\]: is black gonna escape with that group ?
gogonuts [5d\]: how painful for w ...
pancake [4d\]: w wants to attack from a distance with o15?
oonicks [?\]: show me what is wrong with 16 pts?
Freddo [7d\]: just.. all local moves sucked¨
Tabemasu [7d?\]: yeah
Tabemasu [7d?\]: might as well tenuki i guess
sabakusoso [-\]: yes o15 is a type of large sclae attack
sabakusoso [-\]: scale*
Freddo [7d\]: I like the attitude at least
gogonuts [5d\]: k15?
klausP [5d?\]: o13?
Sisley [5k\]: the purpose was to strenghten k16 to fight ?
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;B[je]C[Freddo [7d\]: k15 looks good gogo
isbhal [4d\]: viktooorrrrr 
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;W[ke]C[klausP [5d?\]: now just k14 
klausP [5d?\]: b+
Backflash [6k\]: is b going to do what i think he is going to do?
Freddo [7d\]: maybe g13?
pancake [4d\]: g13 and geta?
Freddo [7d\]: or ilya wants more?
Sisley [5k\]: hum
oonicks [?\]: good moment to say nth
pancake [4d\]: or will w sacrifice g14?
Tabemasu [7d?\]: l16
Sisley [5k\]: ilya wants more :)
Tabemasu [7d?\]: might as well have some fun
klausP [5d?\]: all moves are noce for b here
oonicks [?\]: even^ l16
orro [1k\]: k14?
Freddo [7d\]: l16 k17 then?
sabakusoso [-\]: l16 is ilya style
Sisley [5k\]: l15 get the mess
Freddo [7d\]: l16 does not look good
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;B[kd]C[sabakusoso [-\]: haha
pancake [4d\]: lol
Koffein [-\]: lol
Freddo [7d\]: :)
murrmurr [5d\]: i agree ,doesn't look good
Backflash [6k\]: hah
Tabemasu [7d?\]: g13 i guess
Freddo [7d\]: well I still think it does not look good hehe
klausP [5d?\]: i prefer the simple k14
pancake [4d\]: this is gonna be fun
pancake [4d\]: too bad I have to leave in 10 minutes :(
Sisley [5k\]: so am i....
oonicks [?\]: will be exciting, and since he does know the style it is a question on how far w came prepared
klausP [5d?\]: Ilia is not playing for the looks but for the win
oonicks [?\]: in<
murrmurr [5d\]: i wish i could play either way
sabakusoso [-\]: i think ilya reading is sharper than popi one
Backflash [6k\]: i think bananas are yellow
pancake [4d\]: j15 atari and connect?
oonicks [?\]: i do better at failing miserably in b style i think
sabakusoso [-\]: miam
pancake [4d\]: sacrifice the cutting stone to gain a lot of territory
murrmurr [5d\]: backflash, only between the state of green and brown
sabakusoso [-\]: yes
sabakusoso [-\]: brown is the best
akkrasia [8k\]: for making bread, I agree.
martin3141 [-\]: k17 or m15 is my guess
shikasta [1k\]: did u know banana plants walk
sabakusoso [-\]: k17
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;W[jc]C[murrmurr [5d\]: was it banana or some other tree
akkrasia [8k\]: I did not know that.
]
;B[kc]
;W[kb]C[shikasta [1k\]: banana, i think up to 40cm in a lifetime
akkrasia [8k\]: I thought only Ents and Huorns walked.
Laman [1k\]: and trifids
Tabemasu [7d?\]: g13
Tabemasu [7d?\]: gogo
murrmurr [5d\]: almost as much as my yearly position change
Freddo [7d\]: if g13 now...
sabakusoso [-\]: i like juicy bananas :))))
shikasta [1k\]: lol
Freddo [7d\]: why make these exchanges
Freddo [7d\]: at this point white will answer g13 with k14
pancake [4d\]: he should've anyway I think
Freddo [7d\]: Ilya must have some plan, not just g13
klausP [5d?\]: black can capture g14
Freddo [7d\]: but he payed a lot for it
klausP [5d?\]: if he wants
Freddo [7d\]: previously he had a very nice squeeze without these exchanges
klausP [5d?\]: yea
klausP [5d?\]: thats why i did not like L16
sabakusoso [-\]: g13
alka [2d\]: l14,m15,j16k18,g13
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;B[gg]C[pancake [4d\]: lol
klausP [5d?\]: he is going for the capture
pancake [4d\]: what is his plan/
Backflash [6k\]: ta-da
OWNAGE [3d\]: weak 7d this fred
klausP [5d?\]: lol OWN
gogonuts [5d\]: this is ok by b imo - the moves before lose points are are a type of insurance
sabakusoso [-\]: k14 is sente so the capture is easy
gogonuts [5d\]: moving g14 has become almost impossible
pancake [4d\]: k14 then?
pancake [4d\]: for w
klausP [5d?\]: still black payed a lot
martin3141 [-\]: l14 
kacumoto: Harry, do you know with who is playing parubaru?
Tabemasu [7d?\]: if k14 probably g12
Tabemasu [7d?\]: or something
OWNAGE [3d\]: it's paid not payed lol P
klausP [5d?\]: i aold sit back an play m15 now
Striker [-\]: top 10 pairings online now: http://www.egc2012.eu/congress/main-tournaments/open-european-championship/main-2-temporary-pairings-top-10
klausP [5d?\]: thx OWN
OWNAGE [3d\]: np
kacumoto: thx striker
KurataKun [1k\]: omgomgomgomg
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of these games on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 and 2
KurataSan [1d\]: christian pop against ilya!@#$%
Egg [8k\]: what is the sequence after h14 ?
viu30h [6k\]: ilya is doin fine these days
gogonuts [5d\]: gogo Robert, the pride of germany :-)
viu30h [6k\]: defeating artem yesterday now having very good position against pop
sabakusoso [-\]: lol
RobertT [-\]: that's your pride?
RobertT [-\]: >.<
Backflash [6k\]: viu, are you alright? artem isn't playing
sabakusoso [-\]: antti have a hard game i guess
gogonuts [5d\]: well, i guess were in decline :-/
ertqw [11k?\]: nice pride
IstTengen [3k?\]: Ilya went past the board and yawned
Tabemasu [7d?\]: after h14 j16
sabakusoso [-\]: has*
murrmurr [5d\]: germans dont have much of it left, let them have robert
shikasta [1k\]: btw payed is ok, just less comonly used
Egg [8k\]: ah, thanks
Freddo [7d\]: anyway, blacks position is still really good
gulyag: hoi harry, hoe is het in Bonn?
MaxMakinen [1k\]: Everyone in the room seems to be watching board3 instead of 1 or 2.. must be an interesting game :) EuroGOTV can you give us a result on board3 once they've finished please?
IstTengen [3k?\]: B does not look concerned at all when he walks by the camera
Backflash [6k\]: who is playing on board 3?
isbhal [4d\]: antii
isbhal [4d\]: antti tormanen*
murrmurr [5d\]: törmänen
MaxMakinen [1k\]: Antti Törmänen and Ryu Seung-Hee
Sisley [5k\]: who is he ?
murrmurr [5d\]: finnish insei
Sisley [5k\]: ouch
tumtum [7d\]: where's the table of results?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 4 more donations needed for having 3 boards relayed to KGS tomorrow(allready 6 donations today!!)
elmex [6k\]: tumtum this one: http://www.egc2012.eu/congress/main-tournaments/open-european-championship/results-main-tournament-round-1 ?
ShenWei [2k\]: http://www.egc2012.eu/congress/main-tournaments/open-european-championship/results-main-tournament-round-1
tumtum [7d\]: Thx
KurataSan [1d\]: wat
KurataSan [1d\]: ehere did illya go
KurataSan [1d\]: where*
Sepultura [2k\]: who playing? lam on phone(
viu30h [6k\]: ilya shishkin vs christian pop
profan [-\]: is that so bad to save that stone?
gooooo [3k?\]: white Christian Pop 7d, black ilia shikshin 7d
KurataSan [1d\]: Christian Pop against Ilya Shikishin
murrmurr [5d\]: but who was phone
isbhal [4d\]: jessica alba vs megan fox
profan [-\]: if possible ..
Sepultura [2k\]: nice) thx
gooooo [3k?\]: when I was on phone I had to ask 5 times :(
HandA [1k\]: PING ME
IstTengen [3k?\]: KurataSan:Ilya has been walking around for a while.
sabakusoso [-\]: eurogotv can you see the game of tormanen ?
oonicks [?\]: he realised w would spend time on move like j15? k14 or tenuki?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i will look now
sabakusoso [-\]: oh youre so beautiful
viu30h [6k\]: white has no choice but to extend right but than b will use driving tesuju to get out quickly    or am i mistaken in that?
klausP [5d?\]: w can play m15, b takes and w tenuki
Tabemasu [7d?\]: b can get j16 and l14 in sente viu
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am a weak 1d, but to me Anti looks lost
sabakusoso [-\]: ok
sabakusoso [-\]: thx
klausP [5d?\]: maybe r12 as tenuki
Princessb [3d?\]: Who could win against the wonderful Ryu...
murrmurr [5d\]: eurogotv, maybe he needs a map
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;W[kf]C[sabakusoso [-\]: eurogotv : they are already at the endgame .
sabakusoso [-\]: ?
Tabemasu [7d?\]: g12?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, but anti has no influence and no territory
klausP [5d?\]: same idea but more aji and more influence
sabakusoso [-\]: ah ok :)
Egg [8k\]: h14 ?
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;B[gh]C[KurataSan [1d\]: p9 soon
SIkachnak [3d\]: this cannot be good for w
sabakusoso [-\]: antti plays w ?
]
;W[qo]C[Princessb [3d?\]: now he can  resign
]
;B[qp]C[sagesse [-\]: is there a link to results so far?
Tabemasu [7d?\]: he might well try to start some trouble on the right
sagesse [-\]: pairings?
KurataSan [1d\]: lol
KurataSan [1d\]: a pandanet shirt
zongtoulan [5d\]: http://www.egc2012.eu/congress/main-tournaments/open-european-championship/results-main-tournament-round-1
]
;W[po]
;B[op]C[sabakusoso [-\]: a dog !
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so sound is ok^^
sabakusoso [-\]: :)
sabakusoso [-\]: oh my god
sabakusoso [-\]: someone was killed in the background <?
viu30h [6k\]: isnt that usual on egc?
Princessb [3d?\]: yes, Antti
Tabemasu [7d?\]: time to overplay i think
murrmurr [5d\]: rather annoying trying to figure out who the opponent is from that table
viu30h [6k\]: like r12 something kinda overplay?
klausP [5d?\]: Anti is not good at losing lost positions...
klausP [5d?\]: sorry missing a t
profan [-\]: is w in trouble?
viu30h [6k\]: damn sure he is
murrmurr [5d\]: we finns love our double consonants
klausP [5d?\]: i once made the mistake getting a won position agains Antti...
profan [-\]: who is Antti?
murrmurr [5d\]: in case of double t there's a very small silent sound before the t
Laman [1k\]: Antti Törmänen
sabakusoso [-\]: the guy at the other table
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;W[pl]C[profan [-\]: ty
Tabemasu [7d?\]: w doesn't overplay afterall
viu30h [6k\]: yeah
viu30h [6k\]: white did count i hope
]
;B[pk]
;W[nl]C[Gekirin [2d\]: q8 nice
profan [-\]: if black get sente and r17 
ertqw [11k?\]: r15 
viu30h [6k\]: does this look like sente to you?
profan [-\]: yes
viu30h [6k\]: or  pince from white side dangerous?  doesnt seem since w is weak still
]
;B[ol]
;W[om]
;B[ok]C[profan [-\]: but this is better sente
]
;W[no]C[elmex [6k\]: interesting lag between kgs board and video stream :->
KurataSan [1d\]: black won
profan [-\]: now q18 
viu30h [6k\]: i mixed up w and b profan xD
]
;B[mo]C[profan [-\]: and gme ver?
]
;W[mn]C[klausP [5d?\]: viu30h [6k\]: damn sure he is - no is is not, he is too stong.
viu30h [6k\]: his face is absolutely telling that hes in trouble
TurtleDove [4k\]: if W gets r17 maybe not over
sabakusoso [-\]: popi is going to suicide :(
KurataSan [1d\]: wat
KurataSan [1d\]: why
KurataSan [1d\]: oh
elmex [6k\]: w left table, looking for inspiration? :)
KurataSan [1d\]: popi = pop
sabakusoso [-\]: ofc
viu30h [6k\]: b could techinically tenuki here right?  but hane m6 seems kinda important too
]
;B[ko]C[KurataSan [1d\]: ouch
KurataSan [1d\]: that's it
A1R [2k\]: looks like over
KurataSan [1d\]: when w will return - he will resign.
shusai [2k\]: g10
sabakusoso [-\]: eurogotv : antti is playing w ?
shusai [2k\]: any zoom in antti board
Sheriffi [-\]: Antti plays as black
Syu [1k\]: seems, antti play as black
sabakusoso [-\]: k thx
Sonatine [4k\]: r12 possible?
sabakusoso [-\]: what's the situation eurogotv ???
klausP [5d?\]: its legal 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i still would prefer white, but situation looks little better then last time i looked
klausP [5d?\]: black leads here, acording to my evaluation
klausP [5d?\]: Euro, you are talking about Antti?
MaxMakinen [1k\]: thanks for the info Eurogotv
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am talkong about antti game
sabakusoso [-\]: antti has chosen influence ?
klausP [5d?\]: thx
shusai [2k\]: interesting will be KGS relay for 2 games and video for other 2 games
NicoChiaro [9k\]: where can i see the stream?
sabakusoso [-\]:  http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 and 2
NicoChiaro [9k\]: thanks
gooooo [3k?\]: how much time did they start with?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if 4 more donations to EuroGoTV tomorrow 3 boards!
sabakusoso [-\]: at 10:00
TurtleDove [4k\]: loads
gogonuts [5d\]: oops
gogonuts [5d\]: sry
gogonuts [5d\]: wrong window :-)
sabakusoso [-\]: how much is a donation ?
zum [-\]: 1 board
zongtoulan [4d\]: £0.01
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: any amount more then 0 cent
murrmurr [5d\]: 1 liter
Stuttgart [4k\]: sabakusoso, as much as you are willing to donate :)
sabakusoso [-\]: ok :))
gooooo [3k?\]: if you pick the donation up I'll give 5e :-)
A1R [2k\]: w just m6 nobi...or not?
Stuttgart [4k\]: pick the donation up? what does that mean?
pel [-\]: are there any pairings posted?
sabakusoso [-\]: if all the players presents here give 0.01 £ each, you can relay all the boards ?
oonicks [?\]: egt found a formula that  x*5 sponsor y+1 board, if we get that rolling at some point everyone on the planet will paywill pay a voluntary amount and we will have at least 40 boards
BennyLava [3k\]: You can also donate on my account. I'm about to be a father and need stacks of money ;o)
bolbi [-\]: only the 10 first tables, pel
murrmurr [5d\]: did tien go tap the toilet wall already
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: THX Robin!!!
bolbi [-\]: http://www.egc2012.eu/congress/main-tournaments/open-european-championship/main-2-temporary-pairings-top-10
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 3 more donations needed
gooooo [3k?\]: stutt, collect it from Sweden
zongtoulan [4d\]: if you get 500 donations will you show top 100 boards? :p
murrmurr [5d\]: zontgoulan, that's like, 5 euros total
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i have only 5 cameras with me
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and 4 laptops
akkrasia [8k\]: 3 wifi connections?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so max 4 boards
oonicks [?\]: ah the usual flaw of a pyramid scheme, to small start;)
bolbi [-\]: but why EGC organizers don't handle the broadacast themselves ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and i need to find helping hands
viu30h [6k\]: why pack 5 cameras only 4laptops?   one kamera in reserve?
shusai [2k\]: 5 cameras 4 laptops 3 people :)
elmex [6k\]: maybe EGC organizers are alreayd too busy with organizing the egc
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
bolbi [-\]: o_0
A1R [2k\]: lol...is that victor=
A1R [2k\]: ?
Stuttgart [4k\]: murrmurr, I don't think that Tien is that kind of toilet wall tapping guy ;)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
elmex [6k\]: Stuttgart: lol
Sheriffi [-\]: Eurogotv: If you pay my plane tickets there and back ,I could help you, how does that sound?
pel [-\]: who is anti playing?
Muramasa [1k\]: in what country is this tournement ?
elmex [6k\]: bonn, germany i think
Shaomi [4d\]: r17 
ShenWei [2k\]: de  / bann
A1R [2k\]: what happened to him? i just know last egc egc he was insane sick
akkrasia [8k\]: It's like the Peace Corps, Sheriffi. You pay your own way.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: that sounds like a bad deal for me
MaxMakinen [1k\]: pel against Ryu Seung-Hee
ShenWei [2k\]: bonn
Muramasa [1k\]: thx
pel [-\]: ouch :-)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of these games on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 and 2
Syu [1k\]: cornel done playing?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no
Syu [1k\]: thx
Muttley [1k\]: thanks again for doing this, EGT
tumtum [7d\]: did w res or is this game still going on?
Suola [2k\]: is it as loud in the venue as one might get from the video stream?
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;W[qh]C[tumtum [7d\]: question answered
viu30h [6k\]: finally w overplays
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: now loud
elmex [6k\]: Suola: depends on how much you put up your volume :)
harpo [?\]: yesterday EuroGoTV only neede 3 donations for an extra relay?
Shaomi [4d\]: r17 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 5 donations/board
MaxMakinen [1k\]: harpo, nope, was 5 yesterday as well
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: today already 7 donations
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but yesterday it was a bigger amount^^
Syu [1k\]: what's the time for both players? thx
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 2 hours 30 minutes + 1 minute byo yomi
Syu [1k\]: i mean, time left? :)
hhfjxhfbDE [4d\]: howmuch left ?
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;B[oc]C[Michi86 [5k?\]: seems like 1:50 ilya and 1:17 Pop
Michi86 [5k?\]: ish
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B 1.53 W 1.17
elmex [6k\]: you can almost see on video stream
]
;W[qe]C[Syu [1k\]: thx u
Shaomi [4d\]: p17 looks lukewarm
Syu [1k\]: i cant see it, my monitor too shady
Muttley [1k\]: I can
orro [1k\]: all or nothing
sabakusoso [-\]: p17 was a mistake i think
sabakusoso [-\]: now w has a chance
Shaomi [4d\]: but maybe p17 gives some follow up for l17
goBum [1k\]: :-D
goBum [1k\]: what a mathc
TurtleDove [4k\]: B r14 looks complicated
sabakusoso [-\]: for the moment l17 is just aji, i don't see any good continuation at the moment for b
Shaomi [4d\]: if i were black instead of p17 i would simple make corner alive with r17 and then enjoy the fight with one weak group against 2
sabakusoso [-\]: though a lot of people says that it's an overplay, r12 is not easy to answer
]
;B[pe]
;W[qf]
;B[nb]C[gogonuts [5d\]: it was more accurate to say that r12 was ws last bullet :-)
gogonuts [5d\]: w q13?
Shaomi [4d\]: w has to capture l17 i think
gogonuts [5d\]: b n17 is nasty :-)
]
;W[mc]
;B[pg]C[gogonuts [5d\]: ok, b got it :-)
]
;W[qd]
;B[qc]
;W[rc]
;B[qg]
;W[rg]
;B[rh]
;W[qb]
;B[rf]
;W[pc]
;B[pb]C[Princessb [3d?\]: zomg
gogonuts [5d\]: oops
wolokom [4k\]: oh ko
gogonuts [5d\]: w preparing to resign?
Muttley [1k\]: that's pretty hardcore
OldGeezer [2d\]: w has very few threats
orro [1k\]: w has to ko
medical [3k\]: that means w has to res
Shaomi [4d\]: he could live without it too 
gogonuts [5d\]: s14 made this very comfy for b
Muttley [1k\]: exacty, is white really behind?
Princessb [3d?\]: yes
OldGeezer [2d\]: yes he is behind
gogonuts [5d\]: too many holes in the w center bucket
gogonuts [5d\]: and now, also this nasty ko ...
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;W[re]
;B[sg]
;W[qc]C[Shaomi [4d\]: b tenuki for now
wolokom [4k\]: aber elegant peinlich
Shaomi [4d\]: m8 !
wolokom [4k\]: aua
Muttley [1k\]: w decided that an end without torture is not better than torture without end
Sonatine [4k\]: g10 ?
]
;B[nd]
;W[md]
;B[od]C[Muttley [1k\]: is it two rounds a day or one?
sheeryjay [?\]: 1
Striker [-\]: one
Muttley [1k\]: thanks, and over how many rounds?
hhfjxhfbDE [4d\]: w not much behind imo
Syu [1k\]: over 9000
orro [1k\]: 10
]
;W[rp]
;B[rq]C[wolokom [4k\]: g10 clever vor w
]
;W[pp]
;B[qq]C[gdghgjd [3d\]: i think b is still leading, but it is not much ~5
Muttley [1k\]: thank you orro
]
;W[np]
;B[nq]
;W[oo]
;B[oq]C[gooooo [3k?\]: was r12 overplay?
Syu [1k\]: m6?
Muttley [1k\]: 58 b, w 39 + komi Iget
Muttley [1k\]: G10?
Sonatine [4k\]: what if e18?
wolokom [4k\]: its quite evel
aiken23 [7k\]: M3
OldGeezer [2d\]: w is 50 pts including komi at best , b is around the same but much better yose prospects imo
Muttley [1k\]: oh duh, sorry :) yeah about 49
Banaan [1k\]: yeah hard yose for w
wolokom [4k\]: the next move will desided who wins i think
Banaan [1k\]: yeah
Muttley [1k\]: and what should that move be?
Banaan [1k\]: they toss a coin after the next move
]
;W[gj]
;B[jo]
;W[ho]
;B[ei]C[wolokom [4k\]: hm
OldGeezer [2d\]: SE is confident in white
Muttley [1k\]: E0
Mukti [4d\]: B feels about 15 ahead o the board and being rocksolid and having excellent reading abilities, winning is almost a formality now.
Muttley [1k\]: E10 I mean, keep sente
zum [-\]: w -
Killhim [3k?\]: SE is a liar
viu30h [6k\]: sente for what?
wolokom [4k\]: not enaph
gdghgjd [3d\]: f11?
vaansama [4k\]: enaph is not english
Nschotschi [-\]: my count gives b+5 currently
Nschotschi [-\]: plus sente
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: THX Johan!!!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 2 donations to go
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;W[fh]
;B[fi]
;W[hf]C[sssw: b o16 misstake b p4 better
hhfjxhfbDE [4d\]: oh...
sheeryjay [?\]: wow, yose tournament (http://www.egc2012.eu/congress/tournaments/side-events/yose) sounds fun
OldGeezer [2d\]: yo this is a ladder
SIkachnak [3d\]: i dont think this is anythink black isn't prepared for
]
;B[jb]C[Mukti [4d\]: if j16 were sente he would have a geta.
Mukti [4d\]: S b tries to make it absolute sente
OldGeezer [2d\]: ah
OldGeezer [2d\]: no ladder
FraGo [17k\]: d12?
OldGeezer [2d\]: almost ladder
ereaew: J14
Mukti [4d\]: J14 does seem like w's only chance to make a game of it.
martin97 [2k\]: is the pairings of the first and second round online?
elmex [6k\]: martin97: look at http://www.egc2012.eu/congress/tournaments/open-european-championship
viu30h [6k\]: are there stats for yesterday online?
monkRudy [2k\]: j14 and  b is in trouble
Mukti [4d\]: J14-M18-D12-K14
Muttley [1k\]: oh, that's antti playing ryu :)
Muttley [1k\]: that's criminal that it is not being relayed as a game
shusai [2k\]: yeah
Muttley [1k\]: no criticism of you, EGT :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 2 more donations today and tomorrow 3 boards relayed
Mukti [4d\]: I cannot find anything satisfactory for white.
viu30h [6k\]: hehe i might see a cornel game afterall then
Princessb [3d?\]: Pls relay Ryu's game, EGT
Bauer [1k\]: b play horrible complicated
Muttley [1k\]: you can't just change midgame, Pb :)
viu30h [6k\]: we already got one ryu game but no cornel game
OldGeezer [2d\]: im always been more of a ken guy
gooooo [3k?\]: euro, how many rounds per day?
]
;W[jf]
;B[lb]C[ShenWei [2k\]: 1
]
;W[dh]C[CrunCher [?\]: is there another match after this
oonicks [?\]: there is a difference
Killhim [3k?\]: indded
]
;B[if]
;W[hg]
;B[ie]C[OldGeezer [2d\]: this is good for b
]
;W[hh]C[Moin9 [1k\]: christian is shaking his head
Mukti [4d\]: Still very good for black.
oonicks [?\]: cud v been worse
]
;B[jh]C[Muttley [1k\]: ilia's a monster :)
]
;W[kh]C[Princessb [3d?\]: b reading is super fast
OldGeezer [2d\]: moyo will be gone if w has to make life
]
;B[ki]
;W[li]C[Bira [1d\]: what moyo?
OldGeezer [2d\]: w's
]
;B[lh]C[Mukti [4d\]: Two eak groups, no chance for w's moyo.
]
;W[mh]
;B[kg]C[Mukti [4d\]: weak*
]
;W[lg]
;B[kh]C[Bira [1d\]: w has a moyo.. Aaaaand it's gone.
Mukti [4d\]: If both survive, b is still ahead.
Mukti [4d\]: G11 also becoming dangerous for white.
oonicks [?\]: moyo is overplayted
martin97 [2k\]: what moyo?
Mukti [4d\]: W will probably resign now.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if white can kill c3 he can still win
martin97 [2k\]: maybe
oonicks [?\]: i dont dare to say
ivank [3k\]: lol
OldGeezer [2d\]: the relayer is supposed to be a serious guy isnt he
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
Suola [2k\]: why?
shikasta [1k\]: u need more donations for serious
Suola [2k\]: starcraft has funny guys relaying it all the time, and they are korean
martin97 [2k\]: or well if he is able to do that stuff he is better than perfect pro and then wins :D
]
;W[ng]C[cenalexis [2k\]: ther are pro?
Bira [1d\]: Eurogotv, make w's job easier. Click tools and select edit tool :) and kill c3
]
;B[mf]C[Killhim [3k?\]: this seems cooked
cenalexis [2k\]: they are pro?
viu30h [6k\]: what was w last move?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am pro
martin97 [2k\]: if you donate enough he will do :p
ivank [3k\]: n14 shines
Bira [1d\]: top amateur players from europe
martin97 [2k\]: n14 obvious
cenalexis [2k\]: i c
martin97 [2k\]: m15 strong continuation
viu30h [6k\]: no serious im somewhere elso so only applet where was w last move?
martin97 [2k\]: no
martin97 [2k\]: t
shikasta [1k\]: o13
martin97 [2k\]: watch locallz and see
viu30h [6k\]: thx
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of these games on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 and 2
OldGeezer [2d\]: i think w will resign here
Boogeyman [1d\]: what the on Cristian's neck?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: his head
]
;W[mj]
;B[lj]
;W[mi]
;B[lf]C[martin97 [2k\]: are you paid for being unserious?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
martin97 [2k\]: i want your job :D
viu30h [6k\]: yeah thats an awesome job
Killhim [3k?\]: there aren't vacancies in this job? =)
Bira [1d\]: donate if you want eurogotv to be more serious :)
Muttley [1k\]: EurogoTV, please keep unserious comments ungame related
martin97 [2k\]: (the actual question was if you are paid xD)
tumtum [7d\]: resign?
gulyag: hoi yuki! groeten riedeman
viu30h [6k\]: hurray for go journalists
blitzblitz [4d\]: how much for hour?
Muttley [1k\]: not enough :) please donate :)
tumtum [7d\]: did w res?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no
Suola [2k\]: guess i should really donate
tumtum [7d\]: ok
Suola [2k\]: i leech egc and other tournaments year after year for free ;(
MaxMakinen [1k\]: go go donate then :)
tumtum [7d\]: j13!
gergs: Boogeyman: it's just a skin condition that parts of the skin cells don't produce the darkening pigment
gergs: can burn his skin faster, but nothing else
Suola [2k\]: ah! IBAN bank transfers, thank you future
elmex [6k\]: i can imagine that it is quite some work to setup the stream and investin into travel to the egc site.
Michi86 [5k?\]: Called vitiligo
Suola [2k\]: so it's finally easy
Michi86 [5k?\]: google for more
Banaan [1k\]: They say MJ had it
Boogeyman [1d\]: gergs, thank you, i thinking this birthmark
]
;W[lk]C[Banaan [1k\]: woo he keeps going
]
;B[kj]
;W[ik]C[oonicks [?\]: don't be so silly and impolite, noone mentioned the better moves even only i saw
]
;B[nf]C[kentia [1k\]: toobig
]
;W[nk]
;B[ab]
;W[aa]C[Muramasa [1k\]: b ahead....
]
;B[gb]C[Banaan [1k\]: quite
oonicks [?\]: yes, probs, looks:)
Michi86 [5k?\]: ah, Viktor on the stream
Banaan [1k\]: he looked like he's going to take off his shirt
KaaXeM [1d\]: who is Victor?
martin97 [2k\]: thats lukas i thought...
Boogeyman [1d\]: Bogdanov
Michi86 [5k?\]: that's the one
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: very famous Russian referee
Boogeyman [1d\]: Victor Bogdanov 5d
Michi86 [5k?\]: guy with walking stick
Banaan [1k\]: how do you get a famous referee in go?
]
;W[ql]
;B[eb]
;W[fa]C[A1R [2k\]: getting killed?
]
;B[db]C[kentia [1k\]: did w just get killed?
Muramasa [1k\]: he he he
Banaan [1k\]: that would be sad
Michi86 [5k?\]: seems like it
Sonatine [4k\]: W on tilt >?
elmex [6k\]: seems like punishmentfor the bad shape at c16
blitzblitz [4d\]: ko
ShenWei [2k\]: big endgame :-)
martin97 [2k\]: he didnt think about this???
sheeryjay [?\]: Surviving pretty nasty brain hemorrhage on a tournament is a good start .. and being a good and respected referee just finishes it
gogonuts [5d\]: omg
blitzblitz [4d\]: ko
blitzblitz [4d\]: ko
blitzblitz [4d\]: ko
Muramasa [1k\]: e17 e15 ?....
SIscurge [5d\]: somehow to me it looks like Cristian didn't have enough patience in this game
gdghgjd [3d\]: b is killing white's time
gogonuts [5d\]: this is the end ...
gergs: e17 ?
Muramasa [1k\]: g17 first...?
Banaan [1k\]: poor cristian
martin97 [2k\]: e17 c18
martin97 [2k\]: ko
sheeryjay [?\]: is that Viktor Lin? O_O
viu30h [6k\]: who can stop ilia?   cornel prob not dont know    silt maybe  doesnt seem probable also
Banaan [1k\]: i could, of course
gergs: the korean girl will
Banaan [1k\]: how would you forget me
gergs: she's gonna kick Ilia's butt big time
sssw: ko
martin97 [2k\]: is cornel playing?
Sapling [1d\]: who is the Korean?
martin97 [2k\]: the board behind
Banaan [1k\]: there are a couple koreans
gergs: the one who's playing against Antti Törmänen now
viu30h [6k\]: wasnt cornel just walking around wearing green shirt?
gergs: Ryu something?
waretsuyla [3k\]: what is next move?
Banaan [1k\]: resign
holaholo [2d\]: res
Killhim [3k?\]: resign
OWNAGE [3d\]: res
blitzblitz [4d\]: loser
waretsuyla [3k\]: w or b?
OWNAGE [3d\]: c17 100% dead
Killhim [3k?\]: grey
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+R
Banaan [1k\]: both, at the same time
Moin9 [1k\]: ahh he resign
Backflash [6k\]: thank you
martin97 [2k\]: thx
ShenWei [2k\]: THX €
MaxMakinen [1k\]: EuroGoTV1 any chance of getting an update of board3? 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i will look now
MaxMakinen [1k\]: thank you
sssw: олодец Илья
Turnipsi [1d\]: looks like ko not 100%... e17?
waretsuyla [3k\]: russian rules
sssw: молодец
Moin9 [1k\]: i think its a probem if somebody starts complications with ilja..
Banaan [1k\]: He'll memorize the whole game for us :P
Gekirin [2d\]: Ура ! )
Moin9 [1k\]: then he fells himself comfortable
Moin9 [1k\]: feel*
oonicks [?\]: e17, or nothing:)
OWNAGE [3d\]: Ryu winning
oonicks [?\]: g17 takes 1 w lib so its wrong
goBum [1k\]: they are nodding
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i still dont like Antti's position, but now there is a fight
Mortis [?\]: what's w's favourite kiknd of music?
MaxMakinen [1k\]: ok, thanks for the update
Mortis [?\]: -k
Sepultura [2k\]: агонь))
goBum [1k\]: oh it's over
hvk [-\]: THX
medical [3k\]: thank you
OWNAGE [3d\]: Ryu has a dangerous ko coming just check'd
Banaan [1k\]: how many moves in the game are they?
Banaan [1k\]: approximately
Boogeyman [1d\]: aaaaa
Boogeyman [1d\]: web cam steal!
Nschotschi [-\]: Is this a 3 step ko?
profan [-\]: lunch time?
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