(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Go Congres MAIN tournament round 2 board 2]PW[Johannes Obenaus]PB[Mateusz Surma]WR[5d]BR[6d]DT[2012-07-23]PC[Bonn, Germany]C[zongtoulan [4d?\]: hey euro, nice and private in here for us :)
hvk [-\]: hi
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ^^
zongtoulan [4d?\]: what time is kick off? :)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 15 minutes
zongtoulan [4d?\]: oo awesomeness
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w8ting for pairing
zongtoulan [4d?\]: i hope its antii :)
lupis [3d\]: I wonder if those are kranich adds they are placing on the boards :)
lupis [3d\]: they have been in the habit of being small and yellow in the past
A1R [2k\]: johannes obenaus vs matuesz surma
A1R [2k\]: mateusz*
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;B[pd]
;W[co]
;B[pq]C[Badukgirl [?\]: johannes  ;D
dxxd [2k\]: mateusz wins
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;W[po]C[Badukgirl [?\]: we will see^^
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of these games on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 and 2
Badukgirl [?\]: who is relay?
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;B[cd]C[isbhal [4d\]: mateusz 6d ? :O
Nilatarion [3d\]: yes
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;W[ed]C[Stuttgart [4k\]: Did Surma play yesterday too?
Badukgirl [?\]: results and paring link online?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I think so :-)
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;B[qo]
;W[qn]
;B[qp]
;W[nc]
;B[qf]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: badukgirl, I only now saw what you wrote
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: http://www.egc2012.eu/congress/main-tournaments/open-european-championship/results-main-tournament-round-1
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;W[pn]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I found this
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;B[nq]
;W[qj]C[igs14k [4k?\]: q18
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;B[gc]C[Michi86 [5k?\]: Watching EurogoTV2 brings back memories. I also was once behind that handle, in EGC2010 in Tampere
isbhal [4d\]: joannes serious :o
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;W[cc]
;B[dc]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: :)
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;W[dd]
;B[ec]
;W[fc]
;B[fd]C[Speechless [5k\]: How much time does they both have?
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;W[fb]
;B[cb]
;W[bc]
;B[eb]C[Michi86 [5k?\]: 2,5h for each
Michi86 [5k?\]: and 60sec byo-yomi
Speechless [5k\]: And byoyomi?
Speechless [5k\]: Ah, thanks
Pinguschaf [?\]: o18, r14 exchange wont look good for white in the end
Michi86 [5k?\]: Don't know if it is 60seconds one time
Michi86 [5k?\]: Can EugoGoTV verify that
Speechless [5k\]: EGC was always x seconds per move
Speechless [5k\]: for byo-yomi
gogonuts [5d\]: this variation looks poor for b here
Speechless [5k\]: That's the standard for those anoying ing-clocks they have
gogonuts [5d\]: w gets sente to take care of o17
Michi86 [5k?\]: Can't remember if it is that 150min+60s(1) or is there multiple byo-yomi periods
gogonuts [5d\]: w has no reason to get fancy at g18 here
Ashley [7k\]: i cant see, what rank is white?
Speechless [5k\]: 5d
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: there is only one byoyomi period
Speechless [5k\]: Thanks for that ;)
Michi86 [5k?\]: okey, thanks
Piwczyk [6k\]: is there any way to check if players are playing this match alone?
SIkachnak [3d\]: no choice but g18?
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;W[gb]C[gogonuts [5d\]: i dont understand ws problem
gogonuts [5d\]: c15 turns out nicely for w
gogonuts [5d\]: oh ...
gogonuts [5d\]: why?
Freddo [7d\]: g18 is correct
bombur14 [2d\]: agree
SIkachnak [3d\]: if just c15, o17 would feel weak
gogonuts [5d\]: with c15 instead, w would have let b build thickness here in gote, than w would have settled o17 - perfect for w
gogonuts [5d\]: now its something for everyone :-)
Koffein [-\]: but how to settle o17? black will just get more thickness ..
Freddo [7d\]: i don't agree with you gogo
Freddo [7d\]: i think the thickness of black is limiting the o17 stone
Freddo [7d\]: not such a perfect settlement
Freddo [7d\]: additionally, if white c15 the result is locally good for black
Freddo [7d\]: while g18 is usually a bit better for white
Freddo [7d\]: and o17 will help in the fight
Freddo [7d\]: so it will prove to be a good exchange
isbhal [4d\]: lol
gogonuts [5d\]: if after c15 ect, w simply played q18, wouldnt that have been good for w?
Freddo [7d\]: seems playable for both
Freddo [7d\]: but i dont think black has any reason to be dissatisfied
gogonuts [5d\]: but w gets either l17 or r17 then, both of which are painful for b
Freddo [7d\]: why is l17 painful for black??
Freddo [7d\]: white is approaching blacks thickness
Freddo [7d\]: already happy
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;B[ce]C[gogonuts [5d\]: because it neutralizes the hard earned thickness in the top left
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;W[df]C[gogonuts [5d\]: im not saying that this is bad for w
gogonuts [5d\]: just that the other way semed good to me
Freddo [7d\]: I don't think of the thickness as hardearned in upperleft
Freddo [7d\]: since whites position still has a cut and black has more territority then white locally
gogonuts [5d\]: gote = hard earned =-)
Freddo [7d\]: additionally he will get sente
Freddo [7d\]: because white has to settle o17
Freddo [7d\]: as a direct result of the topleft
Freddo [7d\]: so black will play first in the last corner
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;B[bb]
;W[ea]
;B[db]
;W[hc]C[Koffein [-\]: d15 ?
Freddo [7d\]: that's locally good for w
Freddo [7d\]: usually connect
Koffein [-\]: but does black really want to fight here?
isbhal [4d\]: Johannes strong
Freddo [7d\]: lets see surmas style:)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
Koffein [-\]: oh, i forgot it's surma :p
Koffein [-\]: ok, g16 :-)
Freddo [7d\]: I'm not so famillar with it
isbhal [4d\]: g16 it's surma style ? 
isbhal [4d\]: \\o/
Koffein [-\]: i played him last year .. to reduce a moyo he played a shoulder hit (!) on my wal oO
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;B[fe]C[Koffein [-\]: wall*
medical [3k\]: surma means death in finnish, but i don't see any of it here yet
Song17 [4d\]: lol
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;W[de]C[Freddo [7d\]: f15 not joseki
Warfreak2 [4d\]: power mateusz
SIkachnak [3d\]: g16 usual right? But i guess black has reason to play the way he played
Freddo [7d\]: or maybe he doesnt know the joseki =)
isbhal [4d\]: probably
SIkachnak [3d\]: xD
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i wish mateusz would have played f15 against me
gogonuts [5d\]: was f15 possible?
Speechless [5k\]: Is f15 just uncommon or actually a mistake?
gogonuts [5d\]: lol, speechless
Speechless [5k\]: :D
Warfreak2 [4d\]: a mistake
Freddo [7d\]: It's just a bit inferior to the connection at G16
Freddo [7d\]: but there is no clear punishment, it's just one of those moves that punishes itself
Freddo [7d\]: but wont decide the game in any way
Speechless [5k\]: Ok, thanks.
SIkachnak [3d\]: the results will be the same except black top group will have somehow wierdish shape...¨
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;B[he]C[Rambam [2k\]: c14 =o
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;W[cf]
;B[bd]
;W[be]
;B[ac]C[Freddo [7d\]: after K16 whites position is a bit favorable
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;W[jd]C[gogonuts [5d\]: part of the blame goes to f15
Freddo [7d\]: anyway, black should still pincer at d11 i guess
gogonuts [5d\]: b must play something like d11 now, even thought its tough
gogonuts [5d\]: cant let w get a fine position on both sides
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;B[di]C[Speechless [5k\]: There it is
gogonuts [5d\]: w standard e12?
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;W[eh]C[gogonuts [5d\]: c5 is quite nicely positioned now
gogonuts [5d\]: better than a hoshi
Speechless [5k\]: Johannes uses this 5-3 as white in almost every game
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;B[if]
;W[ei]C[Speechless [5k\]: Isn't this move a little bit  to slow?
Speechless [5k\]: (I meant the black move)
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;B[dk]C[Speechless [5k\]: j14
gogonuts [5d\]: at least b now has L15
gogonuts [5d\]: which he wouldnt have if he had played g12 instead
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;W[ej]
;B[lc]C[Koffein [-\]: that's unsettled group #3
medical [3k\]: is there a limit for unsettled groups
Gouda [?\]: 6 groups, one dies
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;W[ld]C[gogonuts [5d\]: oops
gogonuts [5d\]: very greedy m17
Gouda [?\]: black tries shinogi 
gogonuts [5d\]: the b move was L15, not messing around at m17
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;B[ic]C[gogonuts [5d\]: w J16 works, imo
fdgervg: w will resign soon
Gouda [?\]: complicetad
Gouda [?\]: j18 looks bad
gogonuts [5d\]: j16 h16 h18 k17 l17 l18 l16 k18 m18 
klausP [5d?\]: gogo: j16 h18
gogonuts [5d\]: then h16
gogonuts [5d\]: i was just worried about thetoughest variation
Freddo [7d\]: j16 h16 h18 l17 
rampampam [2k\]: j16 n16
Freddo [7d\]: not k17
Freddo [7d\]: i think
gogonuts [5d\]: no proplem if b lives and w is strong
klausP [5d?\]: right
fdgervg: j16 n16
evader: w should resign
fdgervg: no, resign is very bad move
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
Stuttgart [4k\]: resign is gote
isbhal [4d\]: mateusz futur illia
Stuttgart [4k\]: isbhal, may your word be true :)
Juka [3d\]: WJ18, BH16, WG16, BK17, WL17?
bombur14 [2d\]: J18 K17
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;W[kc]C[gogonuts [5d\]: wut?
evader: h18
evader: ?
fdgervg: nice move
gogonuts [5d\]: w begging for b h18
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;B[ib]C[gogonuts [5d\]: all that thinking, and then L17 ...
klausP [5d?\]: why are thos cutting stones discardable?
gogonuts [5d\]: that works too?
evader: oh nice
Matzeeeee [5k?\]: d10 is free now
gogonuts [5d\]: or is it a counter-blunder? :-)
andreiraz [3k\]: j16 
martin3141 [-\]: discarded? this smells like ko to me
evader: j16 h18
Gouda [?\]: ko?
fdgervg: j16 h28
gogonuts [5d\]: no, works
gogonuts [5d\]: L17 was just too poor
Nilatarion [3d\]: good for black
martin3141 [-\]: indeed, no ko ...
Gouda [?\]: yes clear kill
zongtoulan [5d\]: that seems like a terrible result for w
Stuttgart [4k\]: What would be the correct move after wG16?
zongtoulan [5d\]: almost resignable
fdgervg: so k16 was overplay?
Gouda [?\]: m16 at l17 maybe better?
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;W[pc]C[viu30h [6k\]: g18 quietly died?
klausP [5d?\]: gogonuts [5d\]: L17 was just too poor - so sad
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;B[qc]
;W[od]C[klausP [5d?\]: can w recover by atacking d9 on a large scale?
fdgervg: show the way to attack
martin3141 [-\]: d7 
klausP [5d?\]: start with e5
klausP [5d?\]: d7 is not large scale
fdgervg: e5 is nice
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;B[pb]
;W[ob]
;B[oc]
;W[id]
;B[hb]
;W[pc]C[gogonuts [5d\]: in an amateur game you never know, but the way b profitably settled his top left group is just catastrophic for w
gogonuts [5d\]: how about e5 for b?
gogonuts [5d\]: can also just extend at q15 though
gogonuts [5d\]: in the end, i guess q15 is common sense for b
Gouda [?\]: e9 looks good enough for b
gogonuts [5d\]: just keep the ko from getting atomic ...
gogonuts [5d\]: if b tenukis, w will probably desperately cut at r16
Gouda [?\]: black thinking about r18 or r16?
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;B[dj]C[Cezary [-\]: where is johannes from ?
gogonuts [5d\]: d10 is too heavy
Speechless [5k\]: ger´many, berlin
Gouda [?\]: i would prefer d10 at e9
Cezary [-\]: what nickname on kgs ?
Speechless [5k\]: don't know
gogonuts [5d\]: simply f8
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: he's from germany
gogonuts [5d\]: hard for b to choose then
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;W[ek]C[gogonuts [5d\]: also possible
gogonuts [5d\]: b still cant get out
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;B[dm]C[gogonuts [5d\]: surely e6
Pinguschaf [?\]: e6? seriously?
gogonuts [5d\]: almost sure - e8 is also a move :-)
Pinguschaf [?\]: for me e8 is the only move
kolorek [-\]: Mateusz FTW!!!
Cezary [-\]: jun why arent you participating in egc ?
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;W[en]C[gogonuts [5d\]: i win :-)
gogonuts [5d\]: or better said, lose together with johannes :-)
Stuttgart [4k\]: :)
Pinguschaf [?\]: I have stupid exams during congress
martin3141 [-\]: black can break out with e7 I guess
gogonuts [5d\]: yes, but he has more than one way to break out
gogonuts [5d\]: both carry a price
martin3141 [-\]: you are thinking about f8?
gogonuts [5d\]: f8 is the stylish move
gogonuts [5d\]: but b might choose the crudest way with e7 and d6, so as not to lose the left side
Gouda [?\]: can white use the left for the ko in the upper right?
Pinguschaf [?\]: maybe w will nobi after e7
martin3141 [-\]: why is e7 crude?
gogonuts [5d\]: how about push at d6, then f8?
martin3141 [-\]: that seems crude to me :D
gogonuts [5d\]: because f8 isa the stylish one :-)
gogonuts [5d\]: lol
gogonuts [5d\]: true
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;B[em]C[gogonuts [5d\]: the only stylish option is to start with f8
martin3141 [-\]: :-)
gogonuts [5d\]: must hane
gdghgjd [3d\]: d10 really was not the best move
gogonuts [5d\]: b is still in a great position, ofcourse
gogonuts [5d\]: but d10 was no way to wrap up a game
martin3141 [-\]: f7 d6 d5 f8 f6 e8 
wolokom [4k\]: had w lost this game?
gogonuts [5d\]: right
gogonuts [5d\]: but that sequence gives w some hope
gogonuts [5d\]: b is putting too much emphasis on attacking the w group
Pinguschaf [?\]: o3 is standing quite nice there 
Gouda [?\]: white has to fight with f7 now?
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;W[fm]C[Pinguschaf [?\]: hard to pick the order here for black
Gouda [?\]: f6 now
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;B[dn]
;W[do]
;B[fl]C[gogonuts [5d\]: i called this sequence - should i be proud or ashamed? :-)
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;W[fn]
;B[el]C[Gouda [?\]: proud force
Mukti [4d\]: This feels truly horrible for white.
Pinguschaf [?\]: looks quite german :)
gogonuts [5d\]: peep at g14
Mukti [4d\]: Maybe w will bluf and play G8.
martin3141 [-\]: wait i called this sequence, not you :D
gdghgjd [3d\]: now d10 is not as bad as it looked like :-D
Pinguschaf [?\]: im not German :P
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;W[hj]
;B[dh]C[evader: f14 now?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 1 hour 30 min for black, 1 hour 23 min for white
gogonuts [5d\]: maybe just d13
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;W[eg]C[gogonuts [5d\]: oops
gogonuts [5d\]: e13 is terrible shape
Pinguschaf [?\]: well if u play d13, u get f13 into ur face
gogonuts [5d\]: d13 would have done a lot for eye shape
Pinguschaf [?\]: but e13 gives a stronger shape outside
gogonuts [5d\]: true, but no cut
gogonuts [5d\]: b has time for h8 now
martin3141 [-\]: e13 seems alright
Pinguschaf [?\]: i was thinking if g8 might be better
Pinguschaf [?\]: but h8 looks more natural
gogonuts [5d\]: g8 is certainly more subtle :-)
gogonuts [5d\]: too pro-ish for me :-)
Pinguschaf [?\]: im just afraid of the cut
martin3141 [-\]: but black can live on the left (in gote)
Pinguschaf [?\]: yup, true
gogonuts [5d\]: right
Pinguschaf [?\]: but im always afraid of any cut :)
gogonuts [5d\]: lol
martin3141 [-\]: :D
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;B[gl]C[Pinguschaf [?\]: ha
gogonuts [5d\]: the pro move :-)
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;W[ik]C[gogonuts [5d\]: j9 is a fine point - wouldnt have been so effective against b h8 :-)
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;B[ep]
;W[eo]C[gogonuts [5d\]: i dont know b, but wrapping up games doesnt seem to be his specialty
gogonuts [5d\]: he prefers to win games twice :-)
gogonuts [5d\]: pingu, are you afraid of w h7 too? - or do only cuts count?
Pinguschaf [?\]: only cuts
Pinguschaf [?\]: h7 is ok
gogonuts [5d\]: :-)
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;B[bn]C[Pinguschaf [?\]: b6 is nice
gogonuts [5d\]: w must block imo
gogonuts [5d\]: b b5 would be too terrible
Pinguschaf [?\]: hmm
Pinguschaf [?\]: yeah
Pinguschaf [?\]: w has to aim for some crazy go upper right
gogonuts [5d\]: there is always w r16 :-)
Pinguschaf [?\]: otherwise its quite difficult to keep balance in points
martin3141 [-\]: f4 is imo the only move for w
gogonuts [5d\]: really?
Pinguschaf [?\]: f4 is a bit soft
Pinguschaf [?\]: but maybe proper, yeah
gogonuts [5d\]: ws position is too awful for f4 imo
gogonuts [5d\]: b5 gives b a chance to mess up
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;W[bo]C[Pinguschaf [?\]: imagine whites shape without the e4 exchange :)
Pinguschaf [?\]: would you like to play f4?
Gouda [?\]: black sente?
Pinguschaf [?\]: b will take lower side i guess
Pinguschaf [?\]: and w has to complicate the game then somehow
martin3141 [-\]: my point is: black g4 is more destructive than black b5
gogonuts [5d\]: b g4 creates a target :-)
martin3141 [-\]: seems hard to attack, and black is already alive on the left
gogonuts [5d\]: yeah
gogonuts [5d\]: sure
gogonuts [5d\]: but we will see ...
Speechless [5k\]: Does white still have a chance, or is it over already?
gogonuts [5d\]: messing up there is not too difficult
gogonuts [5d\]: still some chance
Pinguschaf [?\]: b hasnt won yet 
Pinguschaf [?\]: upper right ko is not settled
gogonuts [5d\]: the b left side might not be alive yet
Siasio [4d\]: where is the killing move??
Speechless [5k\]: I find it extremly hard to count games like this one
Pinguschaf [?\]: so dont count
martin3141 [-\]: c8 lol
gogonuts [5d\]: good advice
Siasio [4d\]: c8-b8
ozjohn [4k\]: after bl b13 alive
martin3141 [-\]: just kidding ;)
Speechless [5k\]: So how do I get whos behind and who has the lead if i don't count?
ozjohn [4k\]: black K4 looks good
gogonuts [5d\]: look from far above :-)
Pinguschaf [?\]: try to compare who played worse before :)
martin3141 [-\]: sometimes you have to "feel" it
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;B[fp]C[gogonuts [5d\]: whooooo
Pinguschaf [?\]: that remembers me of d10
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
gogonuts [5d\]: heavy
martin3141 [-\]: even more heavy than g4 :D
gogonuts [5d\]: d3
gogonuts [5d\]: with d3 w regains hope
maciek [2d\]: wow Mateusz!
maciek [2d\]: POLSKA POLSKA!!!
maciek [2d\]: Mateusz Surma won or lose yesterday's game?
tajnynick: wygrał
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;W[ho]C[gogonuts [5d\]: this is board 2
gogonuts [5d\]: you dont get there by losing
maciek [2d\]: thanks gogo:)
Speechless [5k\]: xD
maciek [2d\]: but u know...Mateusz is a Go Star!
maciek [2d\]: everything is possible
gogonuts [5d\]: oops
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;B[hq]C[maciek [2d\]: who is ahead here gogo?
SIscurge [5d\]: H5 somehow looks silly
gogonuts [5d\]: i dont see why w would want that last exchange ...
maciek [2d\]: ok...even i can say black have better position here
maciek [2d\]: white is totally broken
gogonuts [5d\]: w was whiffing at a chance, but i thing even that whiff is gone again
gogonuts [5d\]: think
maciek [2d\]: the only real white points is komi
Michi86 [5k?\]: finaly that h3
gogonuts [5d\]: the rest is just pie in the sky :-)
maciek [2d\]: exactly
tajnynick: j3 
Michi86 [5k?\]: That's hella lot of points for b
ozjohn [4k\]: do you think black should have played H3 instead of H5?
ozjohn [4k\]: i mean white, sorry
gogonuts [5d\]: w could have h4
gogonuts [5d\]: but i think just d3 was proper
maciek [2d\]: and Mateusz is not the one who just want to win easily by points, he is going to eat white stones for sure
maciek [2d\]: just for fun and for fans
LigaGoArt [-\]: B super strong
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;W[bm]C[gogonuts [5d\]: w was doing better before L17
]
;B[bl]C[gogonuts [5d\]: but L17 just crashed the position
maciek [2d\]: they always doing better before "some" move against Mateusz...
gogonuts [5d\]: lol
gogonuts [5d\]: bs invasion at m17 was totally unreasonable
gogonuts [5d\]: but it got major payoff ...
Warfreak2 [4d\]: jealous?
LovroKlc [-\]: how did Lazar's game go?
gogonuts [5d\]: its the nature of overplays - a bad answer is much worse than the original overplay
maciek [2d\]: the m17 invasion is all about Mateusz style:there are not a human avaible to defend against my moves
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hmm I checked Laza's game at some point
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and it didn't look so well for him
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: so I suppose he lost
Warfreak2 [4d\]: give mateusz a high five from me
LovroKlc [-\]: thanks
gogonuts [5d\]: nice, maciek :-)
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;W[qb]
;B[oc]
;W[hd]
;B[gd]
;W[pc]C[martin3141 [-\]: m17 was rather a probe than an invasion
maciek [2d\]: the ko! i regret i can see Mateusz's smile!
maciek [2d\]: cant
gogonuts [5d\]: it had the potential to seriously weaken b on the outside
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;B[qd]C[gogonuts [5d\]: instead, the outside group turned into unshakable ground for b ...
maciek [2d\]: hmm, wise defending
SIscurge [5d\]: looks like he cut on the wrong side
evader: please w res, i must vacuum my room
gogonuts [5d\]: r18 was too tame for the position, i agree
Pinguschaf [?\]: h5 didnt look so great either
martin97 [2k\]: ilia won 
sheeryjay [?\]: who are you in person EuroGoTV2? Whom are we to be grateful for the transcription? :)
martin97 [2k\]: pop died
Backflash [6k\]: right on the board?
maciek [2d\]: can anyone objectively say who is ahead here and by how many?:
billywoods [6k\]: oh dear oh dear
Warfreak2 [4d\]: mateusz is ahead, by victory
maciek [2d\]: ty:)
martin97 [2k\]: johannes should win :D
Warfreak2 [4d\]: incorrect
behindyou [3k?\]: first board ended already?
kolorek [-\]: Palladin :D
LigaGoArt [-\]: haha
billywoods [6k\]: johannes seems to have accidentally not made any points
viu30h [6k\]: w doesnt look good hear
martin97 [2k\]: as i said, pop died
martin97 [2k\]: and resigned
viu30h [6k\]: lol with the first board i didnt had any lag but the second the stream is going all laggy on me -.-
Warfreak2 [4d\]: pop died when the beatles broke up
maciek [2d\]: i am hoping for a double attack against e11 tape group and e6 tape group:)
maciek [2d\]: but is rather future plan
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I will soon ask harry to see if there is anything wrong with the streaming
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;W[qh]C[Nilatarion [3d\]: :)
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;B[oc]C[SIscurge [5d\]: if h5 was on d3 it would have been ok for white
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: the internet is to blame, it seems
Syptryn [4d\]: wgar happened to baord 1?
Syptryn [4d\]: what
ronnyss [3k\]: ilia won
BD96 [3d\]: ilya + r
maciek [2d\]: ilya vs Mateusz next round will be cool
kolorek [-\]: leave it for the final round :D
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;W[cn]C[murrmurr [5d\]: how did antti perform
maciek [2d\]: j8 by black soon?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: they are still playing
]
;B[cm]
;W[pc]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: antti and his opponent
maciek [2d\]: ah i forget we play ko now:)
maciek [2d\]: they play way to slow
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;B[rh]C[maciek [2d\]: i dont remmeber the last move when i am looking for my own next one
LigaGoArt [-\]: johannes look a bit afraid
martin97 [2k\]: interesting
maciek [2d\]: he is very brave if only a bit
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I think that almost all games that Johannes plays tend to be long :)
Speechless [5k\]: aaaaaand it's gone
Speechless [5k\]: (the stream, I mean)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: :( 
Huldioho [10k\]: the money?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hmm
elmex [6k\]: i still have stream
martin97 [2k\]: he had a crazy game against Jonas Welticke, it was long crazy and fighting
Syptryn [4d\]: ah
Speechless [5k\]: Here it says "off air" and black screen
maciek [2d\]: is there are a results somewhere avaible to see?
martin97 [2k\]: yes
martin97 [2k\]: on the homepage
maciek [2d\]: thx
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I just checked the stream and there seems to be nothing wrong with it
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;W[ri]
;B[oc]C[Speechless [5k\]: its back, had to reload the page
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;W[gf]
;B[ge]C[audio [1k\]: stream is ok
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;W[pc]C[maciek [2d\]: i tried to think the from the Johannes point of view for awhile, its so painfuland torture
martin97 [2k\]: b should just taketwo moves and win, right?
maciek [2d\]: doubt only two
martin97 [2k\]: instead of ko threat i mean
maciek [2d\]: ah i dodnt understand u
martin3141 [-\]: but black should settle his upper-right group in the process
maciek [2d\]: white can make two moves in a row and still have horrible position i mean:)
Syu [1k\]: o_o there was wgar comment here..  tho only by accident..
Ilidas [4d\]: who won on board 1?
viu30h [6k\]: hey is there an extra donation pot for lectures and stuff or are you not allowed to record them or something like that?
Moin9 [1k\]: ilja
Ilidas [4d\]: thx
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;B[il]C[mystere88 [1d\]: looks like an easy win of B...
murrmurr [5d\]: it's tough for white
martin97 [2k\]: what were w mistakes?         
Badukgirl [?\]: g18
viu30h [6k\]: not taking points essentially
dxxd [2k\]: L17 biggest mistake I guess
Turnipsi [1d\]: b's surname Surma means death in finnish :-)
hajdnkspf [4k\]: do they have the time they want ?
maciek [2d\]: yupi my j8 move coming
murrmurr [5d\]: turnipsi, isn't it more like a "kill"
Moin9 [1k\]: ist there anything after this game in the programm which we can see???????????????????
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;W[jl]C[murrmurr [5d\]: except milder
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 1 hour 10 min for b, 51 min for w
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;B[oc]C[viu30h [6k\]: when are the pro lectures?
Pata [4k\]: is there a website with the results so far ?
mystere88 [1d\]: @Turnipsi:  Go = life and death; he got half so..
martin97 [2k\]: the homepage
Huldioho [10k\]: i dont know why germans tend to play this uncommon openings
viu30h [6k\]: i say its all jasieks fault
Moin9 [1k\]: creativity and the fun to experiment
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: http://www.egc2012.eu/congress/main-tournaments/open-european-championship/results-main-tournament-round-1
Moin9 [1k\]: jasiek is an extreme
hajdnkspf [4k\]: thx for times
BennyLava [3k\]: No one is listening to Jasiek in terms of openings
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;W[op]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]:   Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
BennyLava [3k\]: or use him as role model or such 
Indig0 [3k\]: who won on 1st board ?
BennyLava [3k\]: ilja
Indig0 [3k\]: thx
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;B[oq]
;W[pc]
;B[im]C[Pata [4k\]: thx
maciek [2d\]: i was afraid white can play j7 instead of p4, was it ossible?
martin3141 [-\]: w whould answer with d3
waretsuyla [3k\]: wow there is a 35k in the tournament! o_O
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: the pairgo tournament is going to be today later in the afternoon
BennyLava [3k\]: the 35k is most likely an infant :P
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;W[iq]C[Moin9 [1k\]: thanx eurogotv2
maciek [2d\]: h4
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;B[ir]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: :)
]
;W[ip]C[maciek [2d\]: k2
viu30h [6k\]: do you know what happened in cornels game? thx in advance
]
;B[jr]C[behindyou [3k?\]: will you be showing one on kgs?
maciek [2d\]: cornel got a suckout
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I will be playing :)
Stuttgart [4k\]: maciek, against whom?
behindyou [3k?\]: that's no fun then. we already know who will win it!
martin97 [2k\]: who are you?
viu30h [6k\]: suckout means he lost right?
maciek [2d\]: victor lin
elementc [?\]: Only one board?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: but there might be that there will be some games broadcasted, but maybe just some from the semifinals and finals, I would guess, but I have no idea
maciek [2d\]: yeah, he lost:)
maciek [2d\]: might be because he played too much poker on pokerstars last time:)
waretsuyla [3k\]: l13 is cosmic move here
elementc [?\]: disappointing if only one board is going to be covered
martin3141 [-\]: viktor won against cornel? woohoo!! :-)
martin97 [2k\]: viktor won against ccornel??????????
martin97 [2k\]: are zou kidding us??????
SIscurge [5d\]: nice :)
Stuttgart [4k\]: if you say Cornel got a suckout it means that Cornel lost... what you mean is 'Cornel got sucked out on' :)
SIscurge [5d\]: SIsandmann is indeed so imba ;-)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: martin97, wir haben in der deutschen jugendliga gespielt :p
maciek [2d\]: :)
martin97 [2k\]: 3141, we got a good teacher :D
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I don't know anything about cornel's game yet
viu30h [6k\]: darn the candidates for stopping ilya are growing less and less    only silt?
SIscurge [5d\]: Silt owned all the russians last congress
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i will try to ask when someone who might know comes here
maciek [2d\]: my english like to be horrible Stuttgart , thenks for info
Altist [1d\]: d3
Stuttgart [4k\]: maciek, you're welcome :)
behindyou [3k?\]: i don't think "suck out" is an actual phrase in english
Stuttgart [4k\]: behindyou, it's informal language
behindyou [3k?\]: i've never heard it
Stuttgart [4k\]: It's used in poker circles
behindyou [3k?\]: sounds quite vulgar, tbh
Stuttgart [4k\]: Cornel is a hobby poker player so that's where the association is
LigaGoArt [-\]: illja watching second board
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;W[jk]
;B[oc]C[mietek [2k\]: what's time left  for both?
Ilidas [4d\]: b won
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;W[gq]
;B[gp]C[maciek [2d\]: continueing informal english i say that Cornel is a fish:)
]
;W[pc]C[martin97 [2k\]: is fish informal?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: b 1h8min, w 43min
maciek [2d\]: i hope, he is not swimming in ocean i mean
behindyou [3k?\]: are you trying to say cornel drinks too much?
maciek [2d\]: no
Suola [2k\]: or is she indept to mafia?
maciek [2d\]: i am trying to say he is a donkey!
Suola [2k\]: he*
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;B[ph]C[viu30h [6k\]: hes a go player of course hes drinking too much  all good go players do since known history
maciek [2d\]: depends what history
viu30h [6k\]: gu li is said to be a feared drinking battler
martin97 [2k\]: thats why i am bad, i am onlz 15 -.-
Stuttgart [4k\]: Hehe! maciek, I heard Cornel's poker isn't that bad
SIscurge [5d\]: why aren't there more boards broadcasted? Organisers didn't give enough to eurgo? (at czech championship we usually have 4 boards..)
behindyou [3k?\]: i really wish that poker explosion didn't happen. listening to people talk about poker is almost as bad as listening to people talk about starcraft
Stuttgart [4k\]: Slscurge, tomorrow there will be 3 boards broadcast probably... also Harry has only 4 cameras with him so it's a max of 4 boards :)
sheeryjay [?\]: which are handled by volunteers though, often unemployed players or students
maciek [2d\]: its not how good your poker is but how bad your opponents poker is:)
matsutoya [12k\]: "fish" term in chess means an oppoonent was lured into a trap of some sort, among other things
behindyou [3k?\]: ty, matsutoya
SIscurge [5d\]: Camera is cool, but the kgs broadcast is the main thing anyway
JoeBlow: w needs to make a lot of points in the middle oO
martin97 [2k\]: nobodz likes chess
SIscurge [5d\]: but cool there will be more soon :)
maciek [2d\]: "fish" term in poker means an opponent who loves to gamble and dont care about his money
SIscurge [5d\]: in go it means guy who talkes about poker while whatching a go game :P
maciek [2d\]: thats why Cornel is not a fish, he is more like horrible player:)
grumpyjoe [-\]: most of w's position is undefined
Tristero [3d\]: w must make 15 points somewhere
behindyou [3k?\]: w is behind by so much
behindyou [3k?\]: 15? that's being generous to white
maciek [2d\]: very true Slscurge:)
maciek [2d\]: but i talk more about famous kgs go player than about poker:)
SIscurge [5d\]: I think w has to r13
martin3141 [-\]: r13 q13 s14 maybe
grumpyjoe [-\]: he meant to say 15 pts somewhere, and 60 somewhere else
elementc [?\]: poker is boring to talk about
behindyou [3k?\]: q19 better than s13
matsutoya [12k\]: Well, that is the main definition of ""fish" in chess, meaning a horrobile player. But I would never say that of Cornel
grumpyjoe [-\]: he needs to materialize a moyo
maciek [2d\]: ok lets see on a board...white playing a ko black taking points everywhere and preparing deciding kill
Vutopan [4d\]: Hello
behindyou [3k?\]: this game is really awful for w
behindyou [3k?\]: poor johannes
Vutopan [4d\]: Is Pop won?
behindyou [3k?\]: no
oonicks [?\]: b trying to force w to make moyo?
behindyou [3k?\]: pop lost
maciek [2d\]: left cornel move looks to be big for both
behindyou [3k?\]: by resignation to shikshin
Vutopan [4d\]: thx
maciek [2d\]: corner i mean lol
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I asked someone to go check cornel's game
LigaGoArt [-\]: it wasnt surprise that ilya won
behindyou [3k?\]: top left or bottom left?
viu30h [6k\]: thx
maciek [2d\]: bottom of course
behindyou [3k?\]: eurogotv2 has minions
viu30h [6k\]: i thought eurogotv2 is a minion      can minions have minions?
behindyou [3k?\]: yes
martin3141 [-\]: sure
behindyou [3k?\]: anyone under you in a chain of command is a minion
JoeBlow: and smaller minions on their backs, and so ad infinitum
Suola [2k\]: ofc, napoleon invented it during their army reform
viu30h [6k\]: xD
oonicks [?\]: ah he is cornel. ijya is very good though, original, personal style, also good fighting spirit
martin3141 [-\]: q19 r13 q11!! :D
Suola [2k\]: before, king needed to write the orders to every company himself, and it took days
behindyou [3k?\]: days
behindyou [3k?\]: lol
behindyou [3k?\]: only in this modern age would days seem like a long time
Suola [2k\]: after, napoleon could just command murat to go to some german town with all his minions etc
Suola [2k\]: you get the idea
SIscurge [5d\]: hmm how about P12
Suola [2k\]: huge advantage
maciek [2d\]: p12 looks funny
Speechless [5k\]: if it goes on like this Johannes will enter his byo-yomi in about 10 moves max
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: so it seems that cornel's game against viktor is pretty even, no dead groups and it's a fighting game :)
Banaan [1k\]: p12 o12 n12
maciek [2d\]: what about answering it with 012 by black?!
JoeBlow: I don't think that's how five in a row works, guys
Banaan [1k\]: dammit
Speechless [5k\]: xD
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;W[rg]C[behindyou [3k?\]: i like q19 more
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;B[oc]
;W[hp]C[maciek [2d\]: s12 nice bait
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;B[hr]
;W[pc]C[maciek [2d\]: Jahannes is a fish too?^^
behindyou [3k?\]: do you mean he drinks a lot?
maciek [2d\]: caught on the hook
JoeBlow: w needs a big kill now :P
Blaubaer [5d\]: in backgammon a fish is ...
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;B[qg]C[maciek [2d\]: r12 now
]
;W[sh]C[maciek [2d\]: 13 i mean
maciek [2d\]: Gus Hansen?:)
Blaubaer [5d\]: hehe not really ^^
behindyou [3k?\]: c3 is sente ish
maciek [2d\]: it must be someone from Kuweit or Arabia
oonicks [?\]: my head is still analysing the last game:)
behindyou [3k?\]: your head is stupid
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;B[oc]C[Blaubaer [5d\]: true b c3 looks good?
maciek [2d\]: take a breathe oonicks! dont let your head die because of white and black stones!
oonicks [?\]: yeah i almost gave a tip;)
maciek [2d\]: c3 looks amazingly big i only wonder is k7 not a black plan instead
behindyou [3k?\]: oonicks, don't. let it figure it out on its own. it's the only way it will learn
behindyou [3k?\]: k7 no good
behindyou [3k?\]: k7 without c3 is slow
maciek [2d\]: k7 is place where u can escape and cut by playing just one stone i think its a good place
zongtoulan [4d\]: how can w win?
Blaubaer [5d\]: difference between bc3 and wd3 not small
martin3141 [-\]: but even without k7, white has no move that connects solidly
maciek [2d\]: but i want k7 by black
]
;W[og]C[maciek [2d\]: by white i would looking where is a resign button
behindyou [3k?\]: maciek, maybe you're right. but i think c3 is the superior move for b
maciek [2d\]: i also behingyou, but i feel Mateusz wants k7
Blaubaer [5d\]: w c3+b3 attacks the whole thing maciek?
oonicks [?\]: maciek that is why we never see you play ina transmission;) you are in love with resign button?
]
;B[pg]C[Blaubaer [5d\]: bc3 ops
maciek [2d\]: and Mateusz's eyes see the e11 group as avaible to kill
prohogiy [5k\]: w+++?
]
;W[pc]C[Michi86 [5k?\]: Any news from table 3
Michi86 [5k?\]: Antti vs Ryu
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: they are still playing
maciek [2d\]: no u dont see me playing because it would be too long, i never resign and try to win even when i am totally crashed:)
viu30h [6k\]: -.- my stream is lagging again stupid internet
prohogiy [5k\]: where stream? )
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: but i guess the game of antti should end pretty soon
maciek [2d\]: i just love to see when Mateusz's opponents resign
oonicks [?\]: hard to count? finns are usually the surreprilious of europeans, but it is summer
oonicks [?\]: most<
oonicks [?\]: sureptilious< beg their pardon
weiqidevil [-\]: Why is Ryu playing on table 3?
]
;B[pi]C[sssw: who won?
maciek [2d\]: hmm hel me pls
oonicks [?\]: pirates drawing straws
maciek [2d\]: black can easily cut by g5 there?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: why wouldn't she play on board 3? :)
Siasio [4d\]: g5 h6 g6 h7 g7 h8 
SIscurge [5d\]: p13 q13  very good for black
SIscurge [5d\]: now S14 can be blocked  so he ll have to jump but thats bad shape
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;W[pa]C[oonicks [?\]: she happened to draw the lowest possible opponent and the shortest straw?
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;B[pj]C[Blaubaer [5d\]: ll so big
oonicks [?\]: if it is not summer he beats all the other finnish
Crisb [2k\]:  
maciek [2d\]: black 60 points?...
maciek [2d\]: white 30?:)
JoeBlow: w has points around q13, I hope ^^
maciek [2d\]: ah hope...
Gouda [?\]: w has to kill
Ranchan [-\]: Antti törmänen is not the lowest possible opponent
oonicks [?\]: he lost yesterday
pytta [3k\]: kgs on mobile here, who is playing? 
Turnipsi [1d\]: no
MaxMakinen [1k\]: oonicks he won yesterday
SIscurge [5d\]: Surma(b) Obenaus(w)
behindyou [3k?\]: w is johannes obenhaus and b is mateusz surma
zongtoulan [4d\]: antii is pretty short though
oonicks [?\]: no?? i am sorry.
pytta [3k\]: thanks
MaxMakinen [1k\]: he was in the middle of the pack in top16, and all top16 players have the same MMS, SOS and SOSOS
Michi86 [5k?\]: lost in rapid, but won in main tournament
sunshine [7k\]: ..............................
maciek [2d\]: the most likely scenario is white trying to kill black but die himself
MaxMakinen [1k\]: so wondering why one is playing board #something, is a bit silly
sunshine [7k\]: yeah
Turnipsi [1d\]: 16 players with 36 (highest) mms
Blaubaer [5d\]: if w d3 w really that bad?
sunshine [7k\]: =.=
Turnipsi [1d\]: 8 boards that is approximately
martin3141 [-\]: white seems to be counting
behindyou [3k?\]: well w/d3 white is still behind
Michi86 [5k?\]: EuroGoTV, times on players please
sunshine [7k\]: -_-
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: b 1 h 1 min, w 22 m
maciek [2d\]: i am not a great score estimator but yeah, white very bad
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;W[qk]C[Michi86 [5k?\]: thanks
sunshine [7k\]: ^_^
Blaubaer [5d\]: uhhhhhhhhh
zongtoulan [4d\]: p14 + simplicity
sunshine [7k\]: ......
Blaubaer [5d\]: no
sunshine [7k\]: =.=
]
;B[qi]C[maciek [2d\]: hmm
sunshine [7k\]: =.=
maciek [2d\]: r11?!
prohogiy [5k\]: em?
maciek [2d\]: why is it important now?
prohogiy [5k\]: Mr. GOTE :))
LigaGoArt [-\]: shouldnt white r11 instead of r9?
zongtoulan [4d\]: pretty sente cos big groups never die in ko
sunshine [7k\]: KO!
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;W[rh]C[maciek [2d\]: i bet its bad order of moves by EUROGOTV:)
gdghgjd [3d\]: if white gets d3 he is about 10 points behind I think
sunshine [7k\]: =.=
martin3141 [-\]: no eurogotv has the right order
zongtoulan [4d\]: i think eurogo is perfection personified
Blaubaer [5d\]: i take the bet
maciek [2d\]: i lost
Blaubaer [5d\]: ^^
sunshine [7k\]: -^_^-
viu30h [6k\]: i hat my internet -.- my stream is only a bunch of 3 sec cuts now
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;B[of]C[martin3141 [-\]: p14
maciek [2d\]: if black played r11...and if white answers it
zongtoulan [4d\]: woo the simple line
maciek [2d\]: is it means black have troubles with living here?
sunshine [7k\]: -^_^-
zongtoulan [4d\]: not have trouble, but has to live
maciek [2d\]: phew...ty
Michi86 [5k?\]: do or die
zongtoulan [4d\]: it means w only hope it to pretend he is attacking this group :p
martin3141 [-\]: do and die
sunshine [7k\]: *-*
maciek [2d\]: this i understand:)
LigaGoArt [-\]: white cant catch up
Blaubaer [5d\]: you have to make thiese moves with a grim face
maciek [2d\]: the advantage by black is pretty shocking
sunshine [7k\]: I THINK IT'S QUITE STUPID
Sheriffi [-\]: Sunshine: Are you enjoying yourself?
sunshine [7k\]: -^_^-
zongtoulan [4d\]: what? using caps lock?
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;W[dq]C[Sheriffi [-\]: Sunshine is just a flooder
sunshine [7k\]: -^_^-
zongtoulan [4d\]: w takes the 目
LigaGoArt [-\]: a7
behindyou [3k?\]: why does w need a washing board?
sunshine [7k\]: WHATEVER
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;B[pk]C[zongtoulan [4d\]: lots of dame on this board... like 100 spaces in the centre all dame..
grumpyjoe [-\]: w fell behind in opening
Cezary [-\]: not really zong
gdghgjd [3d\]: s6?
maciek [2d\]: i still believe e11 can die
zongtoulan [4d\]: oh?
Blaubaer [5d\]: q9 isnt that fast
sunshine [7k\]: ...
]
;W[rn]C[maciek [2d\]: d3 s6 both big
martin3141 [-\]: e2/f2 is a good sente-move for white
klausP [5d?\]: i was sure b is winning, but not annymore
Blaubaer [5d\]: true w is back no?
Stuttgart [4k\]: The truth is that Obenaus is a fighter
klausP [5d?\]: he is
zongtoulan [4d\]: i'm gonna bet on h10 magically dying :;p
klausP [5d?\]: e2 is big
Cezary [-\]: obenaus is a fighter so he makes things like g18 
Cezary [-\]: good fighter id say
martin3141 [-\]: l17 was not a good fighting move imo ...
maciek [2d\]: :)
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;B[lk]C[maciek [2d\]: m9 is a good fighter's move i would say
Ukasuhs [5d\]: anyone know how much time w spent on l17?
Gorim [3k\]: now "dame center" will turn into "bit of black and bit of dame center"
Blaubaer [5d\]: dont like the last b moves somehow
maciek [2d\]: the question is is it white right playing yose or its still late chuban and black doing well
maciek [2d\]: a little no points moves
maciek [2d\]: i am scary
LigaGoArt [-\]: m9 looks so good
maciek [2d\]: go Mateusz go!!!
martin3141 [-\]: black is doing well imo
gdghgjd [3d\]: what does black plan with a move like m9?
SIscurge [5d\]: Can S3 be a good move?
maciek [2d\]: while attacking the e11 gropu taking points around o11
maciek [2d\]: and yes, Mateusz can do it
Siasio [4d\]: s3 ko
]
;W[an]C[maciek [2d\]: white takes points again
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I just checked cornel's game
Blaubaer [5d\]: hmm b gained nthg from this ko? w got d3 + s6 + a6?
behindyou [3k?\]: bold move
maciek [2d\]: b13?
LigaGoArt [-\]: but e12 not strong
goren2 [3k\]: website link anyone?
behindyou [3k?\]: b will make some points in the center now
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and it looked pretty complicated, but viktor seemed to be doing better (and he was also happy, unlike cornel)
behindyou [3k?\]: but that was inevitable anyway
]
;B[bg]C[maciek [2d\]: ok so i understand
]
;W[bf]C[maciek [2d\]: black is going to kill soon!!
martin3141 [-\]: Viktor!! \\o/
maciek [2d\]: feel his power !
isbhal [4d\]: Viktor <3 <3
isbhal [4d\]: <3 
LigaGoArt [-\]: yea black deep reader
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and I also checked mirel florescu against zhao pei and i think zhao pei was leading
isbhal [4d\]: motokin won ?
]
;B[cg]C[goren2 [3k\]: pretty please for website?
Blaubaer [5d\]: e2 +t3 or so enuf?
behindyou [3k?\]: the website is not hard to find...
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w 13 min, b 55 min
isbhal [4d\]: black is strong
maciek [2d\]: still safe advantage by black
maciek [2d\]: like 15 points in my opinion
Blaubaer [5d\]: hm dont think so
MaxMakinen [1k\]: EuroGoTV2 can you please give us the board3 result once they've finished, they seem to be quite far into the game, shouldn't be much left?
maciek [2d\]: - komi
goren2 [3k\]: fine, found it myself.  perhaps o14 is good?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: sure, i will let you know
martin3141 [-\]: l11 for white
isbhal [4d\]: b+r
isbhal [4d\]: no chance now 
Stuttgart [4k\]: lol, nice convo: Pole: Pole is ahead against the German. German: Don't think so ;)
Blaubaer [5d\]: w k18 not small?
isbhal [4d\]: ( and motoki ? )
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;W[ng]C[LigaGoArt [-\]: whoa
martin3141 [-\]: :OOOO
Blaubaer [5d\]: huh?
LigaGoArt [-\]: w gonna die
SIscurge [5d\]: I bet my money on samira :P
Siasio [4d\]: very risky
martin3141 [-\]: greed :D
isbhal [4d\]: normal 
goren2 [3k\]: like i said, 014 would have been good
farhan [1k\]: O13 is very good
gdghgjd [3d\]: goodbye white
Gorim [3k\]: o13 is the only chance
Michi86 [5k?\]: I would be more concerned about h10 group
Blaubaer [5d\]: o13??
behindyou [3k?\]: please don't start a race riot, stuttgart
Gorim [3k\]: not necessary really good:P
maciek [2d\]: o13 is convulsions before death
behindyou [3k?\]: o13, lol
Syptryn [4d\]: last time, kill
Syptryn [4d\]: wooo
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;B[nf]C[Stuttgart [4k\]: behindyou, it's not my intention. I just thought it funny :)
]
;W[mg]C[martin3141 [-\]: o13 is so heavy unbelievable
]
;B[md]C[farhan [1k\]: N13
behindyou [3k?\]: w trying to figure out how to resign irl
Syptryn [4d\]: n14 
goren2 [3k\]: m15
Stuttgart [4k\]: behindyou, besides, I am a German born in Poland ;)
maciek [2d\]: n16 is wonderful use of aji
behindyou [3k?\]: must n17
maciek [2d\]: excellent timing
Blaubaer [5d\]: unglövlich
farhan [1k\]: how about White N14 ?
maciek [2d\]: n15 m15 
goren2 [3k\]: pax among europeans!
]
;W[mc]C[maciek [2d\]: ah n14..
Siasio [4d\]: even if black has no points in he center he has a 10 points advantage
]
;B[le]C[maciek [2d\]: agree Siasio
]
;W[kd]C[Blaubaer [5d\]: i dont
maciek [2d\]: thats why i was saying its about 15
LigaGoArt [-\]: now w dies
farhan [1k\]: with N15 would have spoiled blacks plan completely
salmon [1k\]: whole center is blacks points ;)
maciek [2d\]: but if white not going to resign it will be like 30 or 40 in the end
LigaGoArt [-\]: no, 20
Blaubaer [5d\]: l13
goren2 [3k\]: l13 or l14?
Bira [1d\]: l11 
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;B[li]C[maciek [2d\]: what a wonderfull double attack by black!
behindyou [3k?\]: w resign
martin3141 [-\]: white is begging for a double-attack
Blaubaer [5d\]: maybe j9 dies?
farhan [1k\]: i still think w N14 much better than N17
Michi86 [5k?\]: When Antti and Ryu finnish the game, could you relu the result
LigaGoArt [-\]: black can seal white so h10 in danger
behindyou [3k?\]: michi, relax
Michi86 [5k?\]: Too many people blocking the camera
gdghgjd [3d\]: I agree with Blaubaer. I think black will lead by the points he gets in the center.
goren2 [3k\]: k14
MBQ [1k\]: link to stream please?
Sonatine [4k\]: l13 ?
maciek [2d\]: count it again gdghgjd
h8r [5d\]: b has enough points, w has maybe 8 in center, b far ahead
Siasio [4d\]: white can't rescue his both groups
A1R [2k\]: white looks lost
Siasio [4d\]: one of them will die
JustBlizz [3k\]: how did antti fare yesterday and who was he up against?
Blaubaer [5d\]: w has a nice endgame before o13 imo
msullivan [13k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
behindyou [3k?\]: his two groups or both of his groups. both groups doesn't work
maciek [2d\]: where  u see white points in center h8r?
maciek [2d\]: where are your glasses?!
LigaGoArt [-\]: yea how did antti yeasterday?
h8r [5d\]: was being generous
maciek [2d\]: :)
behindyou [3k?\]: i'm hungry
behindyou [3k?\]: hungry, hungry hippo
dxxd [2k\]: antti won against dusan mitic, I think
Ukasuhs [5d\]: nothing gramatically wrong with saying both groups
JustBlizz [3k\]: ok thanks
martin3141 [-\]: o13 was a terrible move
Blaubaer [5d\]: black player from yesterday won?
behindyou [3k?\]: uka, "his both groups"
maciek [2d\]: generous? i would say full of sense of humour:)
Michi86 [5k?\]: 15-20 ish points to b atm?
Michi86 [5k?\]: maybe bit less
Ukasuhs [5d\]: ill admit it sounds weird, but its not gramatically wrong
behindyou [3k?\]: are you sure?
invader [1d\]: L14
goren2 [3k\]: it is wrong since he has more than 2 groups
goren2 [3k\]: so his both groups would imply he only has 2
farhan [1k\]: whites problem: he isn't really free because he must be careful not to loos ehis left group
gdghgjd [3d\]: true
zuooo [4d\]: k14 is fine to connect?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 5 min left for johannes
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 53 for surma
invader [1d\]: ....
behindyou [3k?\]: both his groups or his both groups
behindyou [3k?\]: one is correct, one is maybe correct but sounds weir
behindyou [3k?\]: d
behindyou [3k?\]: not sure
invader [1d\]: use a lot of times
h8r [5d\]: his both groups sounds wrong
Ukasuhs [5d\]: there are things that sound weirder but are also gramatically correct
invader [1d\]: but still not find any good move
behindyou [3k?\]: true, uka
Ukasuhs [5d\]: like: the horse raced past the barn fell.
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;W[kf]C[behindyou [3k?\]: i guessi  was wrong. thanks for the correction
goren2 [3k\]: usually weird sounding things are not gramatically correct
Blaubaer [5d\]: his both groups is german
invader [1d\]: L14 see
martin3141 [-\]: is "both his groups" correct?
behindyou [3k?\]: yes, martin
Blaubaer [5d\]: k12?
oonicks [?\]: ger centre army wants to cut up all opposing forces at ...
martin3141 [-\]: thx
bERt0r [6k\]: both his sounds better imho
]
;B[ii]C[gdghgjd [3d\]: uuh..vital point^^
Blaubaer [5d\]: last warning
lucifer3 [-\]: what is the meaning of this?
LigaGoArt [-\]: interesting middle fight
zuooo [4d\]: n14 still cuts, k14 better than l14 for sure
tchitchi [1k\]: w must repond to not being cut, and either, b aim at m14 l13 cut
LigaGoArt [-\]: something dies now
]
;W[ig]C[oonicks [?\]: i try to remember even
behindyou [3k?\]: sad thing is that even if white saves both groups he loses
behindyou [3k?\]: so this a whole lot of work for very little purpose
profan [-\]: Pop, Shikshin is over?
behindyou [3k?\]: yes, it ended very early
Moin9 [1k\]: yes
MaxMakinen [1k\]: yes, shikshin won
Tristero [3d\]: shikshin won
Korf [1k\]: Yes, Pop resigned
behindyou [3k?\]: shikshin won by resignation
ronnyss [3k\]: Cornel?
papadog [6k\]: what about Simara, Silt?
oonicks [?\]: he played splendid imnvho
behindyou [3k?\]: ty, oonicks
invader [1d\]: K13 ?
ReneGo [24k?\]: eurogotv2 s suddenly off air
behindyou [3k?\]: it happens
Speechless [5k\]: Maybe Johannes resigned?
behindyou [3k?\]: don't start freaking out about a potential alien invasion
maciek [2d\]: how old Mateusz is?
Cezary [-\]: 17
oonicks [?\]: everyone i seen so far i think plays well, jf was good ryu was almost trancedent, cornel is a teacher, perhaps that nabbed him, or he can't stand to reply to a slow opening only according to the book
invader [1d\]: they had weird surname
invader [1d\]: Surma , 
invader [1d\]: Obenaus i know some but Surma never heard
Badukgirl [?\]: broadcast offair?
maciek [2d\]: its because he was in Korea:)
maciek [2d\]: sea ​​of capabilities
maciek [2d\]: now
Moin9 [1k\]: woah what happened?
Moin9 [1k\]: why is it off air?
sabakusoso [-\]: who won between antti and sueang hee ??
sabakusoso [-\]: it has just finished
Sheriffi [-\]: Nobody
Michi86 [5k?\]: judging by the clock, antti resigned
Blaubaer [5d\]: game over??
oonicks [?\]: someone saw a great ko coming long ago, but what i saw from sueang hee i do not think there has been a ko like that at all:)
oonicks [?\]: probably the watchers have still been thinking for 15 minutes it would:)
maciek [2d\]: the real fighting test of abilities now
maciek [2d\]: black to move. where to play?
Badukgirl [?\]: is game over?
oonicks [?\]: this move is good, maybe best, x yy is much easier after
audio [1k\]: k13 ?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: sorry, i will just put down the moves randomly so that you can see what's happening from now
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: teh laptop turned off suddenly 
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;B[jg]
;W[jf]C[MaxMakinen [1k\]: EuroGoTV2 who won board3?
]
;B[hg]
;W[hf]
;B[ih]C[Ranchan [-\]: Antti resigned
]
;W[ie]C[maciek [2d\]: no problem, thanks!
]
;B[ff]
;W[gg]
;B[ig]C[MaxMakinen [1k\]: ok, thanks
]
(;W[mf]
;B[lg])
(;W[hk]
;B[lg]
;W[mf]C[Deejay [3d\]: k7
maciek [2d\]: g7 probably should be balck too
maciek [2d\]: or k7 yeah
]
;B[ql]C[sabakusoso [-\]: eurogotv2, antti resigned ?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: antti resigned
sabakusoso [-\]: ah shit
Deejay [3d\]: who won with antti?
]
;W[rl]
;B[go]C[grt5r: oh
Nschotschi [-\]: weiß steht platt?
grt5r: what is this?
]
;W[hn]C[oonicks [?\]: w is ahead i am pretty sure
Gorim [3k\]: w can die with E11
grt5r: m7?
KoelnerFC [2d?\]: w not ahead!
JanekF [3k\]: h8
Gorim [3k\]: he would than be aheady by something like -80 points
oonicks [?\]: only if sth dies yes
]
;B[gn]C[maciek [2d\]: g7:)
Blaubaer [5d\]: can someone give me result board 3?
Gorim [3k\]: Antti resigned
Deejay [3d\]: h8 sente
threeoone [4k\]: now w should live easily
JanekF [3k\]: now w has problem
Blaubaer [5d\]: ok thx Gorim
Deejay [3d\]: if black gets h8 k7 kills
grt5r: w can resign?
]
;W[hl]C[oonicks [?\]: i only counted once, i think not
behindyou [2k?\]: w can def. resign
behindyou [2k?\]: as could b
oonicks [?\]: ah
Mukti [4d\]: Weird play by b, these 5 stones are unimportant and the cut sets off abd aji in black's left side group.
]
;B[hm]C[Pade [2k?\]: who plays here
Deejay [3d\]: weird?
Mukti [4d\]: B9 becomes a problem after the cut.
zum [-\]: k7
Deejay [3d\]: black cant kill without connecting j7
threeoone [4k\]: w k7
Blaubaer [5d\]: y h9?
maciek [2d\]: i dont know what is happening here but i reallyhope Mateusz is going to win:)
Turnipsi [1d\]: b made sure he's cut to three pieces, not two
behindyou [2k?\]: b9 no problem
tajnynick: liczba żywych grup białego jest coraz mniejsza
]
;W[jm]C[JanekF [3k\]: central w group looks dead
]
;B[gm]
;W[jn]C[grt5r: l4
JanekF [3k\]: m7?
threeoone [4k\]: but w 20+ behind now
]
;B[lm]C[oonicks [?\]: w has 13 pts on top?
oonicks [?\]: this move no diff
]
;W[fg]
;B[ga]C[oonicks [?\]: well a bit he need 17 pt on top but only 2 from last move
maciek [2d\]: white is totally crushed and destroyed
]
;W[lo]C[KoelnerFC [2d?\]: even if w lives in sente...
grt5r: ?
grt5r: what a misshape
grabit [7k\]: how do u calculate so quick
KoelnerFC [2d?\]: mistshape?
Koffein [-\]: grabit, practice
oonicks [?\]: crazy way
DariusA [3d\]: just M3
grt5r: l4
Nschotschi [-\]: n5 
Blaubaer [5d\]: damit kennste dich aus fc hm?
DariusA [3d\]: yeah L4 better
]
;B[jo]C[oonicks [?\]: nihilist, maximum elimination, lowest possible counts
grt5r: oh
maciek [2d\]: surprise!
Koffein [-\]: very painful for white
]
;W[ml]C[Deejay [3d\]: now he can resign
Cezary [-\]: tesuji biatchioooooooooooooooooooo
Cezary [-\]: thats my mateusz
behindyou [2k?\]: ...
mthd [-\]: imma slap yo face
grt5r: contrtesuji
]
;B[ll]C[libell [3d\]: hahahah
Cezary [-\]: haha
kolorek [-\]: hahaha
Cezary [-\]: sie czaisz bartek z nienacka atakujesz
threeoone [4k\]: m5 was careless 
mthd [-\]: ja cie mam we friendsikach a ty nie
mthd [-\]: nie-e
DariusA [3d\]: n10
]
;W[ef]
;B[fa]C[Cezary [-\]: no ostatnio na tym koncie byles jako guest
mthd [-\]: u mad
microprobe [1d\]: how much time left?
Cezary [-\]: w ogole co nie pracujesz kulwa
kolorek [-\]: excuse me but you shouldnt speak your native language here
DariusA [3d\]: mowich po angielsku~
JanekF [3k\]: timesuji?
mthd [-\]: placuje
kolorek [-\]: please speak english or leave
gagalo [2k\]: j6
mthd [-\]: ok sorry
grabit [7k\]: looks like 150 hours left
behindyou [2k?\]: kolorek, stop
Warfreak2 [4d\]: lol wut
]
;W[ko]C[Cezary [-\]: kolorek please stop trolling
behindyou [2k?\]: speak whichever language you wish
libell [3d\]: yo paladin
Cezary [-\]: please behave, kolorek
Warfreak2 [4d\]: kolorek racist against polish
kolorek [-\]: im not trolling why would you think so
kolorek [-\]: xD
oonicks [?\]: yes it did get worse i think, l10 ... (m11)? ,, or m10 , x yy? 
Cezary [-\]: please kolorek your acting is against ToS
Cezary [-\]: haha
oonicks [?\]: betr x cc or so
grabit [7k\]: i would j6
Blaubaer [5d\]: j6 20€ on j6
]
;B[nn]C[maciek [2d\]: wow
Blaubaer [5d\]: sh...
maciek [2d\]: all in!
pikadonk [1d?\]: b want it all :)
Itserroth: haha
behindyou [2k?\]: pay up, blau
threeoone [4k\]: m5 should have been l4 imho
behindyou [2k?\]: 20 euro for all
kolorek [-\]: tos - torunska orkiestra symfoniczna?
]
;W[ol]C[kolorek [-\]: czy towarzystwo obserwatorow slonca? :D
maciek [2d\]: white is allin too :)
tajnynick: biały odważny
behindyou [2k?\]: blau, i'll accept my payment as a kgs+ sub., please
Cezary [-\]: terms of service kolorek
Blaubaer [5d\]: n4
kolorek [-\]: :<
Cezary [-\]: takie cos co akceptujesz
Cezary [-\]: jak rejestrujesz konto
Cezary [-\]: ze bedziesz przestrzegal
kolorek [-\]: to przepraszam ;<
Cezary [-\]: : p
]
;B[np]C[mthd [-\]: a wy co biczesy, wakacje
behindyou [2k?\]: maybe w thinks he never woke up this morning and this is just a nightmare?
Itserroth: it would be funny if w kills something
kolorek [-\]: it wouldnt be funny at all
Deejay [3d\]: w died
]
;W[mn]C[tajnynick: n5
Deejay [3d\]: higaki co podpowiadasz
tajnynick: wut?
tajnynick: że niby ja higaki jestem?
Mukti [4d\]: w aiming at the b center group - last chance.
Blaubaer [5d\]: hm w o10 a problem?
Cezary [-\]: wlasnie wakacje
Cezary [-\]: co ja robie na tym kgsie
]
;B[lf]C[Stuttgart [4k\]: wow, the game is still going
tajnynick: do pracy byś poszedł:>
behindyou [2k?\]: w is persistent
]
;W[me]C[kolorek [-\]: jagody zbierac
JanekF [3k\]: n5
Mukti [4d\]: w has little to lose, he has had a lost game right from move 20 or so.
DariusA [3d\]: that's a pretty pessimistic point of view mukti
maciek [2d\]: a real one
threeoone [4k\]: move 50 you mean i think
Mukti [4d\]: W got such a hirrific result at the top that the game could well be calle  lost.
DariusA [3d\]: hard to define reality in go :p
KoelnerFC [2d?\]: w really trying to eat the elephant?
Koffein [-\]: it's the only point of view
MicMac [2d\]: k4?
oonicks [?\]: count b well ahead now 10 or so
Stuttgart [4k\]: video stream down?
Badukgirl [?\]: seems like
maciek [2d\]: i feel black is not sure he can kill white
DariusA [3d\]: live braodcast link please ?
Speechless [5k\]: offline
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;B[mo]C[Stuttgart [4k\]: should be  http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live
farhan [1k\]: correct
DariusA [3d\]: thx
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: sorry, there are some problems with the live stream and i dont know how to solve them :(
Stuttgart [4k\]: sorry, that is  http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
threeoone [4k\]: no need to kill here even if we exchange j13 for j4 b is way ahead
Blaubaer [5d\]: if b loses somehow hell be a bit down
zum [-\]: EuroGO: Ascii ART
]
;W[mm]C[DariusA [3d\]: b can't kill w
farhan [1k\]: b m6 now
Nschotschi [-\]: dragons never die
behindyou [2k?\]: i'd love if w wins
Nschotschi [-\]: m6 n10 
behindyou [2k?\]: the whole game we've been saying w should resign
Koffein [-\]: all dragons are dead. or did you see a living dragon?
Striker [-\]: two big dragons fighting, one have to die
DariusA [3d\]: or they can become friends
Mukti [4d\]: Severe shape problems for b now
Deejay [3d\]: what a pity we cant see the players faces
oonicks [?\]: b dragon ready for bloodtransfusion
farhan [1k\]: first step is CUT M6
Mukti [4d\]: He should have been playing safe, overattacking is geting him into trouble.
maciek [2d\]: its not so obvious black can do it
Deejay [3d\]: b deep reader dont worry
Stuttgart [4k\]: Would be funny if w and b decide it's a draw, shake hands and just go :)
Nschotschi [-\]: Koffein there is still a dragon living near Bonn
Nschotschi [-\]: @Drachenfels
behindyou [2k?\]: someone should slay it and claim its hoard of gold
threeoone [4k\]: b m10 and all ok
Koffein [-\]: lass mich raten .. eine eidechse? 
maciek [2d\]: but we are not deejay so i am really scary a lot
DariusA [3d\]: what's the enxt move for B ?!!!
Stuttgart [4k\]: behindyou, with today's economy that dragon is probably in serious debt ;)
KoelnerFC [2d?\]: actually it is more a worm, less a dragon ^^
DariusA [3d\]: stream working again
Warfreak2 [4d\]: dragons don't make investments
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2 should work now
maciek [2d\]: my intuition say it will be defending move not m6
threeoone [4k\]: but b plays as he isnt aware of his lead
DariusA [3d\]: thx eurogo
behindyou [2k?\]: stuttgart, dragons never part with a bit of their treasure. a dragon cannot be in debt
Warfreak2 [4d\]: they never enjoy a brass ring of it
Stuttgart [4k\]: oh, I forgot dragons have the gold standard XD
Deejay [3d\]: but i put my hopes in mateusz skill that's why i dont worry, i believe he cant lose now
farhan [1k\]: after cut at M6 J6 is nice
Nschotschi [-\]: Ein echter Drache. die leute denken siegfried hätte ihn getötet, aber wenn Du hoch gehst ist er da und erzählt dir seine geschichte
kolorek [-\]: is it Blazej in the background?
tajnynick: żeby tylko cz nie padł:>
maciek [2d\]: dokladnie
behindyou [2k?\]: b should simply connect
maciek [2d\]: where is a "simply connect" move behindyou?
Deejay [3d\]: ale ziewa Błażej
Cezary [-\]: ciekawe jak daleko mateusz jest wstanie przeczytac to semeai
Cezary [-\]: mysle ze naprawde daleko
oonicks [?\]: wow b now has 2 dead groups:o
Mukti [4d\]: Very bad shape by black.
kolorek [-\]: dalej niz ty :D
MicMac [2d\]: if black cut n10 is trouble
DariusA [3d\]: pewnie duzo polakow w tym turnieju..
Stuttgart [4k\]: oonicks, where?
Siasio [4d\]: 4
Deejay [3d\]: polaków chyba 4
JanekF [3k\]: m6 works
oonicks [?\]: s18
DariusA [3d\]: to duzo :)
Deejay [3d\]: sasio perwszy
Stuttgart [4k\]: starczy na ustawke ;)
hhfjxhfbDE [4d\]: how much time do they have left ?
maciek [2d\]: kto gra orpocz mateusza?
Cezary [-\]: dalej niz ty kolorek
Cezary [-\]: czyta 9/10 osob na tym kgsie
Cezary [-\]: wiec o czym ty mowisz
DariusA [3d\]: w francji w tamtym roku ile bylo polakow ?
Cezary [-\]: wiem ze byl stefan
Blaubaer [5d\]: huhu squaw
Cezary [-\]: i to wszystko
zima [2k\]: e2 
mof [?\]: the dragon comes at 16, it wants a gold coin from each player
]
;B[mh]C[mof [?\]: or they will have to stop
kolorek [-\]: cezary why so serious
maciek [2d\]: safe mode
DariusA [3d\]: honte move
Deejay [3d\]: its correct mode
oonicks [?\]: good its b move;)
]
;W[ln]C[Siasio [4d\]: maciek: Bartek Błażej i Ireneusz Węgiel
]
;B[pl]C[maciek [2d\]: dzieki
pikadonk [1d?\]: o10?
Mukti [4d\]: N10
]
;W[ni]C[DariusA [3d\]: Q8 is bad
Siasio [4d\]: :o
Siasio [4d\]: co to za ruch
]
;B[nh]C[Blaubaer [5d\]: cut atari
Mukti [4d\]: Q8 feels like a tremendous overplay
threeoone [4k\]: i don,t see why b didnt play k4 after l5 seems a much simpler way for easy victory
SIscurge [5d\]: what 
Siasio [4d\]: n10 was better
Mukti [4d\]: What on earth is O11?
DariusA [3d\]: N10
Deejay [3d\]: tez nie kumam o11
Stuttgart [4k\]: how much time left for Surma?
Deejay [3d\]: chbya nie widzi self atari
]
;W[mj]C[tajnynick: hamete i tyle zagrał biały:>
Mukti [4d\]: O1 worst possible choice...
DariusA [3d\]: exchange
DariusA [3d\]: good for w
maciek [2d\]: o1...agree
threeoone [4k\]: game over w lost
farhan [1k\]: m10 easy
Blaubaer [5d\]: y not m10?
tajnynick: m10, p12
farhan [1k\]: M10 is easy
behindyou [2k?\]: p12 wouldn't work
Deejay [3d\]: yea m10 
maciek [2d\]: m10 p12 p11 
]
;B[oh]C[tajnynick: ja mam racje, Mateusz mnie poparł
]
;W[nd]C[Siasio [4d\]: ???
Deejay [3d\]: ???
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
threeoone [4k\]: why the hell care for that 3 stones now, e2 bigger
Siasio [4d\]: why did b play atari why didn't w play m10??
maciek [2d\]: black has no eyes?
]
;B[lj]C[Mortis [?\]: b is alive
Blaubaer [5d\]: true e2 bigger
Mortis [?\]: b can p7 
Mortis [?\]: or make 2nd eye at top
behindyou [2k?\]: p7
kolorek [-\]: how much time they have left?
]
;W[om]C[yorokux: hi kolorek my friend
Deejay [3d\]: black have already two eyes
yorokux: kolorek
maciek [2d\]: the more i watch the real games of go the more i love it
kolorek [-\]: hi yorokux my friend
yorokux: :)
behindyou [2k?\]: b is not a live yet
Deejay [3d\]: yorokux say hi to your friend
behindyou [2k?\]: nevermind
yorokux: hi friend
tajnynick: szybciej grajcie bo mi się dniówka zaraz kończy
behindyou [2k?\]: missed move
salu [2k\]: e2 now?
Blaubaer [5d\]: s7 for fun?
Siasio [4d\]: s14 - 2 eyes
thelastkyu [1k\]: b is alife
Ukasuhs [5d\]: 2 eyes already
]
;B[ro]C[bERt0r [6k\]: e2 for b is big?
yorokux: yea
bERt0r [6k\]: cant see it
yorokux: very bigish
Korf [1k\]: more fun than s7 :)
Bira [1d\]: i think e2 was bigger
Nschotschi [-\]: rest is endgame...
harpo [?\]: d2 possible
oonicks [?\]: boom probs now more than +10
yorokux: :
]
;W[qm]C[bERt0r [6k\]: e2 d2 and w gets e3 sente later
salu [2k\]: b has a huge lead now
Bira [1d\]: ah b wants to play s7, so s5 might be better
oonicks [?\]: 16 if the 10 didnt change
Nschotschi [-\]: to me it seems like w has the better endgame on the board
KoelnerFC [2d?\]: stuttgart result?
Deejay [3d\]: m4 big also
farhan [1k\]: J6 also biggish
NicoChiaro [9k\]: how did the other game end up ?
yorokux: lol
Mukti [4d\]: B shoudl win easily, but I think the margin is less than 10 points.
behindyou [2k?\]: actually b lost points in this fight
Stuttgart [4k\]: KoelnerFC, result for what?
mystere88 [1d\]: Hello: is W coming back ??
behindyou [2k?\]: but it's still fine for b
KoelnerFC [2d?\]: s 21   ^^
Blaubaer [5d\]: oh come on e2?
salu [2k\]: b+20
Stuttgart [4k\]: lol, I just moved here. Got nothing to do with S21 ;)
mystere88 [1d\]: M3
KoelnerFC [2d?\]: hehe
]
;B[er]C[farhan [1k\]: but J6 without M6 doesnt work
Deejay [3d\]: m4 better than m3
oonicks [?\]: saving r8 was ok ish, yes there is e2,  p7 seems to slow
mystere88 [1d\]: and better rhan E2 ??
]
;W[dr]C[Nschotschi [-\]: b+15
mystere88 [1d\]: m3/m4 > E4
]
;B[eq]C[harpo [?\]: b k3 sente
Deejay [3d\]: but k3 bad move
oonicks [?\]: b m4 like 4 pts
]
;W[kj]C[farhan [1k\]: L4 very interesting
harpo [?\]: not really sente
]
;B[jj]C[oonicks [?\]: sente for 3 more
farhan [1k\]: L10 still trying to kill
threeoone [4k\]: w s18 was enough to kill imho
threeoone [4k\]: b careless
]
;W[kk]
;B[ki]C[Ukasuhs [5d\]: there was no way to kill
Ukasuhs [5d\]: o10 mkaes an eye btw
mof [?\]: ja
baian [1d\]: blk has eye at o10?
mof [?\]: so difficult as xxxx to kill
threeoone [4k\]: o10 no eye
weiqidevil [-\]: no
behindyou [2k?\]: o10 does not make an eye
Ukasuhs [5d\]: o10 is an eye
behindyou [2k?\]: o10 n9 n11 p10 
DariusA [3d\]: O10 doesn't make an eye
]
;W[es]C[DariusA [3d\]: 5d owned :p
farhan [1k\]: DariusA is correct
Ukasuhs [5d\]: getting n11 in sente mkaes l12 an eye
threeoone [4k\]: simply s18 i don,t get they don,t see it
]
;B[fs]
;W[ds]
;B[al]C[Shadowman [2d\]: shouldn't black play d4 before f1?
salu [2k\]: s18p15= two eyes
Deejay [3d\]: to early for d4
]
;W[am]C[grt5r: ???????????????????
Tristero [3d\]: d4 now?
Shadowman [2d\]: d4 and if c4 c3 cut
Shadowman [2d\]: e1 becomes ill-placed then
Ukasuhs [5d\]: and the c3 cut does?
behindyou [2k?\]: c3 does nothing
Deejay [3d\]: yes
Shadowman [2d\]: it captures e1
Deejay [3d\]: c3 ko threts
salu [2k\]: 1 point sente d4
behindyou [2k?\]: it does not, shadow
NicoChiaro [9k\]: how did pop vs. shikshin end up?
Gorim [3k\]: pop resigned
Shadowman [2d\]: d4 c4 c3 c2 b3 b2 d1 
Ukasuhs [5d\]: pop died
grt5r: m4
Blaubaer [5d\]: l19 +l4`
threeoone [4k\]: playing e1 bad style w
farhan [1k\]: yippiai yeah the endgame is starting !!!
Ukasuhs [5d\]: d1 there have a stone
]
;B[kq]C[SIscurge [5d\]: b+15 atm
Deejay [3d\]: here comes m4
Mukti [4d\]: w losing so much at the endgame...
bERt0r [6k\]: but after f5 b could get seki in corner?
Shadowman [2d\]: well yes... that's why I said it to be played before answering at f1
]
;W[mi]C[baian [1d\]: =)
Ukasuhs [5d\]: shadowman, what?
Blaubaer [5d\]: n11???
Mukti [4d\]: what on earth is this?
]
;B[kg]C[Deejay [3d\]: white mad
Mukti [4d\]: W losing more points with every move.
Striker [-\]: obenaus reading to much at emptytriangle.com
salu [2k\]: s18 knda big noıw
Mukti [4d\]: Trying to kill? 
mystere88 [1d\]: N11 is nothing.. 
]
;W[oe]C[Pinguschaf [?\]: l13 was not good
Warfreak2 [4d\]: l13 is fine
Ukasuhs [5d\]: n11 was double sente
Ukasuhs [5d\]: even if very small double sente
Blaubaer [5d\]: s14?
SIscurge [5d\]: S15 is beton 
threeoone [4k\]: ok here we go
Warfreak2 [4d\]: just q15
MBQ [1k\]: beton? you mean concrete? :)
Deejay [3d\]: no beton
Korf [1k\]: :D
Cezary [-\]: bacon
Cezary [-\]: : p
Stuttgart [4k\]: if it's bacon it must be sente
]
;B[rf]C[farhan [1k\]: S14 and all is well
Warfreak2 [4d\]: not necessary to give two stones
Cornicula [2k\]: yes
Pinguschaf [?\]: w gained
MBQ [1k\]: hmm, can make ko?
]
;W[pe]C[Blaubaer [5d\]: kill it
grt5r: cessary
]
;B[rb]C[farhan [1k\]: black no longer killable
bloodarena [8d\]: white doesnt know he s14 can kill instead of q15
Deejay [3d\]: never killable
threeoone [4k\]: t18 t15
Deejay [3d\]: never gonna be, and never never
]
;W[sd]C[Blaubaer [5d\]: hahaaha
bloodarena [8d\]: wat is this...
Cornicula [2k\]: ???
]
;B[rd]C[Cornicula [2k\]: s15
Deejay [3d\]: resing move
grt5r: dead?
farhan [1k\]: trying the impossible ha ha
]
;W[ra]C[Koffein [-\]: damezumari
Dechu [9d?\]: is it really board 2 ?
bloodarena [8d\]: he missed the possible and now doing some nonesense
Striker [-\]: board 3
Deejay [3d\]: possible???
mystere88 [1d\]: T15
threeoone [4k\]: nothin there w s18 was key point
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: board 3 tomorrow if 2 more donations
Nils007 [1k\]: t15 
Koffein [-\]: t18 
]
;B[sb]C[bloodarena [8d\]: s14 could have killed? thats wat i read
Stuttgart [4k\]: Come on guys, small donations will do :)
salu [2k\]: lol?
behindyou [2k?\]: umm
Ukasuhs [5d\]: t17
Pinguschaf [?\]: so u read wrong
Ukasuhs [5d\]: lag
bloodarena [8d\]: show me
salu [2k\]: black started looking dead
Blaubaer [5d\]: t16 - s14 kills?? blood?
Deejay [3d\]: s14, when? no time to play it
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: B+R
behindyou [2k?\]: i can only pay attention to one game at a time
bloodarena [8d\]: instead of q15?
behindyou [2k?\]: gg
Dechu [9d?\]: gg
Nilatarion [3d\]: \\o/
behindyou [2k?\]: very enjoyable
evader: s14 s15 lol
QERREWR: is it a ko for life??
Gorim [3k\]: \\m/
Ukasuhs [5d\]: s14 was played before q15
behindyou [2k?\]: no ko
Dechu [9d?\]: please show some games of motoki noguchi
behindyou [2k?\]: just alive
Deejay [3d\]: just alvie
bloodarena [8d\]: is it?
bERt0r [6k\]: w cannot connect because of s10 
tantrika [7k\]: white res :D
Deejay [3d\]: yes
QERREWR: how come t154 is not a ko?
behindyou [2k?\]: isn't it?
Nils007 [1k\]: aji s10 
farhan [1k\]: nice 20 kyu prblem
kolorek [-\]: :D
bloodarena [8d\]: oh right
bloodarena [8d\]: im 30kyu
behindyou [2k?\]: bloodarena fake 8d
Deejay [3d\]: ;d
behindyou [2k?\]: -.-
bloodarena [8d\]: or even lower
grt5r: 8d = 29k
QERREWR: so is it a ko or not?
behindyou [2k?\]: it's alive no ko
Zahlman [1k\]: why would it be a ko?
salu [2k\]: lol
QERREWR: how come
behindyou [2k?\]: t14 s15 t15 t17 t13 s10 
behindyou [2k?\]: or some such
Blaubaer [5d\]: maybe s14 at q15 safer?
pikadonk [1d?\]: why fan hui not playing egc?
grt5r: Surma on European Champion!
QERREWR: ok, thank you behindou
behindyou [2k?\]: np
Gorim [3k\]: Surma and Shikishin will play tommorow?
Huldioho [10k\]: ok.. t14??
Zahlman [1k\]: can't
drmert [13k\]: where is this tournamet ?
threeoone [4k\]: s14 was ko
Huldioho [10k\]: at least ko
Huldioho [10k\]: ?
threeoone [4k\]: oh no b alive 
Huldioho [10k\]: wher is the second ey?
Huldioho [10k\]: eye?
threeoone [4k\]: no way to kill
drmert [13k\]: s15?ü
RinniR [2k\]: r15 
Stuttgart [4k\]: Thanks for turning the cam Harry. Do you know who is playing there?
Tristero [3d\]: t14 s15 d15 t17 t13 s10 kills
Tristero [3d\]: kills w i mean so b is alive
drmert [13k\]: s15 - r15 - t14 and ko
ramsXIII [3k\]: no
Nschotschi [-\]: t14 t17 t15 s15 done
i9i9i [1k\]: t19 no ko
zum [-\]: d15??
i9i9i [1k\]: 17*
Nschotschi [-\]: t14 t17 
ramsXIII [3k\]: maybe time to resign.
drmert [13k\]: ı see, no ko
Tristero [3d\]: w resigned already
final6 [2k\]: obviously w should resign right now
final6 [2k\]: ah, over already ?
Tristero [3d\]: yes, over
Huldioho [10k\]: hmm
Huldioho [10k\]: still was exciting
JustBlizz [3k\]: w resigned here?
wysek [1d?\]: yeah, Black leads by more than 10,
gfdhff [-\]: Hi
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