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GN[EGC2012 European Championship qualifier for last 8]PW[Pavol Lisý]PB[Ion Florescu]WR[5d]BR[6d]DT[2012-08-01]PC[Bonn, Germany]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: 33 minutes to start
AncientZen [3k\]: will this be a live feed game?
Liso66 [3k?\]: Hallo Euro - is it possible to move table 3 closer to camera? 
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I wouldn't know.. I
Liso66 [3k?\]: pls ask! :) 
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I'll  ask Harry when he gets back
Liso66 [3k?\]: thank you very much! :) 
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: The answer is no. We only have two cameras
Liso66 [3k?\]: it is technical or marketing reason? 
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I wouldn't know. I am but a minion of the eurogoTV overlord.
Liso66 [3k?\]: if technical - yes I understand that it is only one table which is primary broadcast, but if 3-td table
Liso66 [3k?\]: would be closer we could see players and his reactions
Liso66 [3k?\]: table would see on kgs
Liso66 [3k?\]: theirs reactions :) (sry my english is poor) 
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I understand. But we only have 2 decent cameras. The other one is a toaster with a lens, it would add nothing to the game trust me ;- )
lupis [3d\]: may I be permitted to ask which minion we are in the company of? :)
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: A new one. I was recruited out of desperation. 
viu30h [6k\]: there only 8?    im missing 3 ondrej  cornel and ilya   werent those 3 top 3 europeans in main tourney
Fleymen1: I've seen ondrej and Cornel playing here already.
Liso66 [3k?\]: thanx very much for trying! :) 
viu30h [6k\]: in the european championship tournament starting after round 7?   
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Ilya Shikshin, Ondrej Silt, Cornel Burzo, Thomas Debarre and Antti Törmänen have already qualified, if I am not mistaken.
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: These are Qualification games. The twinners of these games will meet the other players. 
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I'm sorry but I am not exactly sure as to how the tournament structure works
Michi86 [5k\]: You are right
Michi86 [5k\]: Winners of these 3 games move to cup where 8 top europeans play for championship
Laman [1d\]: if someone is interested in the (not too juicy) complete rules, here they are: http://eurogofed.org/egf/ecrules.htm
Liso66 [3k?\]: http://www.egc2012.eu/home/news/2012/08/01/european-champion-qualifications
lupis [3d\]: unless I'm missing something the winner of this game will play against Ondrej Silt tomorrow
Liso66 [3k?\]: shikshin
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Ion Florescu is already here. We are waiting for Pavol Lisy to arrive.
lupis [3d\]: both of them have allready played against Shikshin
lupis [3d\]: and repeat pairings are avoided
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Pavol has arrived.
Liso66 [3k?\]: are you playing in tournament euro? 
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Ion wins the nigiri, he will be black
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[qd]
;W[dp]C[Liso66 [3k?\]: pls change then game info 
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;B[dc]
;W[pp]
;B[cn]
;W[fq]
;B[ci]
;W[od]
;B[ld]
;W[pg]
;B[of]
;W[pe]
;B[pf]
;W[qe]
;B[qf]
;W[rf]
;B[rd]
;W[re]
;B[qg]
;W[qc]
;B[nd]
;W[nc]C[Laman [1d\]: great, not the always-the-same, boring joseki
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;B[oc]
;W[ob]C[BaguaZhang [3d\]: florescu is black?
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;B[pd]
;W[oe]
;B[pc]
;W[pb]
;B[rc]
;W[qb]
;B[ne]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: yes
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;W[rg]
;B[nb]
;W[mc]C[SIscurge [5d\]: is this joseki?
fj [5d\]: this is a replay of their weekend tournament game so far ^^
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;B[mb]
;W[lc]
;B[lb]
;W[kc]
;B[rb]C[SIscurge [5d\]: ah then.. :)
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;W[qh]
;B[nf]
;W[kb]
;B[qa]C[Blitzbold [2k\]: huch, fj watching??
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;W[gc]
;B[qi]
;W[ph]
;B[ri]
;W[rh]
;B[pi]
;W[nh]
;B[oi]
;W[ng]
;B[lf]
;W[lh]
;B[je]
;W[hd]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: should be okay now
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;B[pn]C[SIscurge [5d\]: it looks like the direction of play is better for w
SIscurge [5d\]: blacks formaton on the left side doesnt work well with the week group
SIscurge [5d\]: weak :o)
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;W[mj]
;B[op]C[mooooo [6k\]: fj is living in bonn i beleave
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;W[oq]
;B[oo]
;W[pq]C[Cunning [4k\]: j13 causes trouble for b?4
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I dont know wpavol, but I think he looked a little surprised at black's choice
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;B[de]C[mihi [5d\]: Go Master!
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;W[hg]
;B[kh]C[Viheton [1k\]: nice attack from white
Cuki [4d\]: nice cuki from black :)
SIscurge [5d\]: with what move did black separate from the weekend variation?
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;W[la]
;B[pa]
;W[ki]
;B[jh]
;W[lg]C[purun [4k\]: go go kill o14
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;B[jf]
;W[hi]
;B[ji]
;W[kj]
;B[jj]
;W[jk]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: pavol taking a few sips of his cherry coca cola, ion still thinking hard
hulaetq: the normal H10 move seems the only choice
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Thats what I thought, but Ion is thinking long and hard. He must see dangerous variations that I do not
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;B[he]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: He plays H15 and promptly leaves the room
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: 2:05 for Pavol, 1:35 for Ion
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;W[ge]C[roujiamo [5d\]: i wanna see w invade right side, prob have to wait a while for that though..
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I think so, yes.
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Pavol walks outside into the beautiful park of Bad Godesberg to smoke a cig
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;B[hf]
;W[gf]
;B[jc]
;W[jb]
;B[ic]
;W[ib]
;B[hc]
;W[hb]
;B[id]
;W[gd]
;B[fb]
;W[gb]
;B[hj]
;W[ik]
;B[ij]
;W[fi]C[Fleymen1: Is B alive yet?
roujiamo [5d\]: 1/2 alive, 1/2 out in to centre
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;B[gj]
;W[dj]C[Cezary [5d\]: thats nice that
Cezary [5d\]: you are informing about pavol
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;B[cj]C[Cezary [5d\]: but isnt smoking u18 illegal ?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Don't think so
Liso66 [3k?\]: but what if his father is reading this? 
Liso66 [3k?\]: ;) 
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;W[di]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Then he might be in trouble later ;- ) dont keep secrets fromyourparents :P
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;B[ck]C[roujiamo [5d\]: hey roln, who would you rather play? :)
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;W[dg]C[roujiamo [5d\]: well already beat b once this tourniew so i guess at least w would be a new challenge ;)
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;B[ce]C[Liso66 [3k?\]: with w played in first round
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;W[gl]C[Laman [1d\]: roln played both b and w, so the pairing will change a bit
Liso66 [3k?\]: Илья kого бы ты хотел играть?
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;B[ig]
;W[mp]
;B[kq]
;W[lq]
;B[gq]
;W[fp]C[trastu [1k\]: Who is playing? 
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;B[gp]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Ion Florescu against Pavol Lisy
trastu [1k\]: thx
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;W[fo]C[Liso66 [3k?\]: ilya played also simara and pop so what if they will win? 
roujiamo [5d\]: then ilya gets dq'd
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;B[kp]
;W[mn]C[lupis [3d\]: then he plays Antti
SIscurge [5d\]: I think white is leading since black h15 k17 j17 combination
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;B[qo]
;W[iq]C[roujiamo [5d\]: hoho
roujiamo [5d\]: nice move
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I can't tell if Ion is worried. His expression hasn't changed since the start of the game. Best pokerface I have ever seen, I am impressed.
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;B[ip]C[Liso66 [3k?\]: :) euro are you playing also in main? (sorry if You answered yet) 
SIscurge [5d\]: who is euro?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Yes I am, but I am doing quite horribly.
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;W[ir]
;B[lr]
;W[mr]
;B[lp]
;W[mq]C[SIscurge [5d\]: W play is super proper :)
roujiamo [5d\]: b needs this attack to come off though
roujiamo [5d\]: lacks points
roujiamo [5d\]: w*
prohogiy [4k\]: w win? : )
lorill [2k\]: depends on the bottom, but white behind if black lives i think
roujiamo [5d\]: b looks hard here to me
roujiamo [5d\]: need to hope for some free mo ves in the centre for eyes
roujiamo [5d\]: eg m6 etc
Muscadet [?\]: b looks dead 
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;B[go]C[Muscadet [?\]: if he uses the cutting ajis in the center he will die after l16
orioles: black is going to live
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: The park turned into an action movie for a brief second. Helicopters flying over and dogs barking.. Players didn't notice though
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;W[io]C[orioles: thats why I love go, when I am playing I focus just on game:-)
Liso66 [3k?\]: dont play go when you are driving car! :) 
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;B[jp]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: 1:04 for Ion 1:42 for Pavol
orioles: I tried virtual blind 9x9 in car while driving, but I lost :-)
SIscurge [5d\]: we used to play 7*7 .. 9*9 too hard
LotharN [?\]: much better than ...but I crashed. :P
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;W[in]C[orioles: well this seems dead, dont u think so?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I do, but I am weak so you shouldn't trust me
roujiamo [5d\]: i believe in cheater, he will kill it
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: cheater is pavol? Didn't know that.. cool!
Liso66 [3k?\]: yes he is
Weishenme [5d\]: not so easy to kill , if not w will regret not to have played g2
orioles: his dad says:-)
orro [1k\]: J2
orro [1k\]: how much time left for Ion?
SIscurge [5d\]: hmmm this shape looks hard to kill doesn't it?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: The clock is facing the other side. I cannot check when the players are at the table.But if I had to guess I'd say between 50 and 55 minutes
Laman [1d\]: sometimes killing is not the biggest problem, keeping it dead is
orro [1k\]: thx
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: A fly landed on the board, Ion shoo'd it away with his hand 
orioles: fly smells corpses
roujiamo [5d\]: is Ion a common name in his home country?
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;B[hr]C[orioles: yes
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;W[fr]C[danvitca [-\]: ion = john
prohogiy [4k\]: ko? )
lorill [2k\]: i hope not, white has a threat factory with the middle black group...
pingzhai [4k\]: b h1 and live
orioles: Ino
Jahfab [1d\]: isn't Thomas playing ?
lorill [2k\]: no, thomas is already qualified
Jahfab [1d\]: :D
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Thomas Debarre is already qualified
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Just like Ilya shikshin, Ondrej Silt, Cornel Burzo and Antti Tormanen
Jahfab [1d\]: thx
orioles: h1 doesnt help
roujiamo [5d\]: Antti yeaaahhhhh
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;B[gm]C[Jahfab [1d\]: and one more question, Catalin didn't play this year ? or he lost ?
orioles: he doesnt play
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Catalin is teaching here, he did not enter the tournament
Jahfab [1d\]: ok thx again
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: He is one of the pro's making us stronger ;- ) we will all be 7dan after egc
Jahfab [1d\]: hehe
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;W[fm]C[Jahfab [1d\]: hope is our best weapon
Jahfab [1d\]: ^^
orioles: someone still hope to be 7d? :-)
SIscurge [5d\]: Palko is very strong in messy fughts
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;B[im]C[orioles: he must qualify, his games are never boring
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;W[gn]C[KCN [1k\]: kind of trick play
pingzhai [4k\]: b h5 then h1
roujiamo [5d\]: this seems nice by black
roujiamo [5d\]: close to alive
orioles: still dead, no?
orioles: black needs sente eye
roujiamo [5d\]: h3 would be a ko now but i guess there is better
mihi [5d\]: black played J7 too fast 
orioles: h3-h5?
orioles: h4 doesnt look eyeable, but I am weak, dont know
Liso66 [3k?\]: h3 k2 is not working? 
JanHao [2d\]: does h10 have two eyes?
JanHao [2d\]: if white l16?
roujiamo [5d\]: b has h12 etc
roujiamo [5d\]: lots of eye potential
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: but wwhite certainly has a lot of ko threats in that area. a ko for this bottom group will surely result in trouble for black
ennuistic [2d\]: fairly sure the bottom grou pcan't live.
ennuistic [2d\]: i guess best here is h5?
orioles: still dead after H5
wharrgarbl: I'm trying to see what h6 leads to, guess I can't see best white reply
orioles: just to take
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;B[hq]C[roujiamo [5d\]: ugh
ennuistic [2d\]: hmm.
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;W[ho]
;B[jr]C[ennuistic [2d\]: so... ko?
chachu [1k\]: no
chachu [1k\]: j1
ennuistic [2d\]: no?
prohogiy [4k\]: i say ko in 126 move:))
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;W[is]C[SIscurge [5d\]: O.O
orioles: j1 kills
prohogiy [4k\]: h1 and ko
ennuistic [2d\]: still ko?
roujiamo [5d\]: looks dead
roujiamo [5d\]: h1 h4 k3 m1 
ennuistic [2d\]: mm.
ennuistic [2d\]: i don't think h4 works
roujiamo [5d\]: now for m6 and pray
SIscurge [5d\]: hard to do something in the center
roujiamo [5d\]: then resign
ennuistic [2d\]: well... it almost doesn't work.
ennuistic [2d\]: =(
roujiamo [5d\]: oh i guess h1 first
roujiamo [5d\]: so w has to play his own lib at h4
prohogiy [4k\]: k1?
roujiamo [5d\]: but still looks dead
roujiamo [5d\]: k1 h4 h1 m1 
prohogiy [4k\]: okay
orioles: only miracle helps to black
prohogiy [4k\]: :(
Thazz [?\]: there s still Aji
prohogiy [4k\]: many ko-danger : )
SIscurge [5d\]: btw w has like 5 times more ko threats
roujiamo [5d\]: you mean b has p12 and w has 5 threats? :)
SIscurge [5d\]: hehe :)
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;B[js]C[roujiamo [5d\]: maybe m1 directly here
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;W[ls]C[SIscurge [5d\]: >??
roujiamo [5d\]: yeah
SIscurge [5d\]: K1??
SIscurge [5d\]: then h4 liberty remains
roujiamo [5d\]: yep...
Liso66 [3k?\]: how much time remains? 
SIscurge [5d\]: why?? O.o
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;B[ln]C[roujiamo [5d\]: lameness?
prohogiy [4k\]: mm
SIscurge [5d\]: K1 looks unexplicable to me :/
prohogiy [4k\]: he want alive? ;-D
roujiamo [5d\]: we are kibbitzing so we are 9d at the mo, maybe h1 not easy to see ;p
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: white one and a half hour
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: black 25min
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;W[lo]
;B[ko]
;W[mo]C[roujiamo [5d\]: i would like to see pavol as euro champ, that would be funny
SIscurge [5d\]: I think he will become european champion in the future for sure :)
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;B[jn]C[isumi43 [5k\]: hard to tell
Liso66 [3k?\]: Lukan do you agree? ;) 
Lukan [6d\]: we will both become champions in a future ;)
Liso66 [3k?\]: :):)
orioles: it will be so difficult to compare shikshin, but good luck to pavol
roujiamo [5d\]: you didn't clarify euro champs lukan :s
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;W[lm]
;B[km]C[orioles: whats going on in that game?
Liso66 [3k?\]: I think we will see Lukans rising star ;) 6d after beating strong korean in last rounds etc... 
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;W[kl]C[roujiamo [5d\]: he beat a korean?! awesome
SIscurge [5d\]: looks dead to me.. it doesnt have many liberties either
Liso66 [3k?\]: no it is just my prediction
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;B[hm]C[roujiamo [5d\]: ah ok
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;W[hn]C[Liso66 [3k?\]: sry for that
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;B[fl]C[roujiamo [5d\]: h8 gg
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;W[hl]C[orioles: resign very soon
roujiamo [5d\]: b really not many libs
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;B[em]
;W[fn]C[roujiamo [5d\]: and i think w can live with every outside group anyway :)
roujiamo [5d\]: c3 time :-p
salu [2k\]: he could use all that overplay as ko threats, no?
roujiamo [5d\]: desperation
Liso66 [3k?\]: g18 is alive?
orioles: white lives everywhere
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;B[el]C[roujiamo [5d\]: maybe hoping to magic kill g18
reflex: black's only hope is to murder G15 with some tricks
orioles: but how?
reflex: yea =)
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;W[co]C[orioles: E18 by white lives, no?
roujiamo [5d\]: yeah i never said it was possible
roujiamo [5d\]: just magic
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;B[fc]C[orioles: just to make eye in center
Liso66 [3k?\]: big games big mistakes are possible... 
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;W[ef]C[roujiamo [5d\]: one last thing to read then resign
SIscurge [5d\]: this game was under control since the beggining, Palko played really nice
Liso66 [3k?\]: what about other games? 
roujiamo [5d\]: b joseki choice in top right was odd
roujiamo [5d\]: kinda like he wanted to hope for a mistake
roujiamo [5d\]: g12 g11 h12 f12 seems very alive
roujiamo [5d\]: every other b move seems to fail faster
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;B[ch]C[orro [1k\]: resign would be honourable...
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;W[gi]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: black resigned
roujiamo [5d\]: congrats pavol!
roujiamo [5d\]: you rock
SIscurge [5d\]: thanks for broadcasting
Liso66 [3k?\]: thanx for nice broadcast :) 
LotharN [?\]: thanks EuroGo
gnarf [1k\]: thx
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